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Old 07-03-2021, 09:05   #3781
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

http://news.sky.com/story/scottish-i...gests-12238501


A small poll, and you know I don’t have any faith in polls, but worth bringing to the attention of this thread
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Old 07-03-2021, 09:33   #3782
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

The sample size is good, especially bearing in mind Scotland’s population is far smaller than the uk’s as a whole - UK-wide newspaper polls frequently use 1,000 adults.

The only thing that makes it not directly comparable with previous ones is they didn’t weight for voter turnout. They seem not to have done that because their interest was more to do with the effects of the recent shenanigans with Salmond and Sturgeon. In that sense their polling question was already loaded so refining for voter turnout would be a pointless additional step anyway.

Still it is an interesting contribution to the picture. I suspect this May’s Holyrood elections will be quite the spectacle.
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Old 07-03-2021, 11:20   #3783
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

As with any poll in the immediate aftermath of "an event" it'll be interesting to see if it sticks or voters reflect on it and as time passes go back to considering other issues.

As always the propaganda wing of the British state at the BBC gave the story undue prominence with Sarah Smith falling into the trap of hearing what she wanted to hear rather than what was actually said resulting in her claim on the 6 o'clock news that Salmond urged Sturgeon to resign, something she retracted to her 24 thousand twitter followers.

https://twitter.com/BBCsarahsmith/st...634144258?s=20

I know the BBC aren't what they used to be but I'm going to work on the basis that the 6 o'clock news gets more than 24 thousand viewers.

But yes I do agree this election will be fascinating, with unintended outcomes of the PR system perhaps the margin between majority Government/minority Government propped up by Greens or perhaps outright minority Government where not even the support of the Greens gets to a majority.
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Old 07-03-2021, 11:31   #3784
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

She's as popular as ever with the snp bots.

And gets a fly past by the Scottish air force.

SNP SUPPORTERS have been mocked on social media after three politicians tweeted identical messages supporting party leader Nicola Sturgeon.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/14...s-Ross-Twitter
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Old 07-03-2021, 11:46   #3785
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She's as popular as ever with the snp bots.

And gets a fly past by the Scottish air force.

SNP SUPPORTERS have been mocked on social media after three politicians tweeted identical messages supporting party leader Nicola Sturgeon.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/14...s-Ross-Twitter
https://www.theweek.co.uk/107071/tor...minic-cummings

Would never catch the Tories doing anything like that...
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Old 07-03-2021, 22:39   #3786
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The sample size is good, especially bearing in mind Scotland’s population is far smaller than the uk’s as a whole
The population size is irrelevant. 1000 is always a good sample size, which is why they use it.

It's nicely explained here: https://ukpollingreport.co.uk/faq-sampling
Extending the soup analogy, it doesn't matter how big the bowl is - you only need one mouthful.

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Old 18-03-2021, 20:33   #3787
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

BREAKING: Scottish Parliamentary Committee has concluded that First Minister Nicola Sturgeon misled Parliament.

https://news.sky.com/story/sturgeon-...finds-12249817
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Old 18-03-2021, 21:35   #3788
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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BREAKING: Scottish Parliamentary Committee has concluded that First Minister Nicola Sturgeon misled Parliament.

https://news.sky.com/story/sturgeon-...finds-12249817
She shouldn't survive this, should she?
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Old 18-03-2021, 21:38   #3789
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She shouldn't survive this, should she?
no but what about all times Westminster Parliament has been mislead they would be no one left if they all had to resign
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Old 18-03-2021, 21:46   #3790
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no but what about all times Westminster Parliament has been mislead they would be no one left if they all had to resign
Indeed. It's an easy deflection.

Standing for election on her record in a mere seven weeks time.
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Old 18-03-2021, 21:50   #3791
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no but what about all times Westminster Parliament has been mislead they would be no one left if they all had to resign
Can you list all the Committee based inquiries and investigations in to Westminster being misled?

I can think of one particular time, when Labour lied about WMD in Iraq and took us to an illegal war.

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Absolutely not. She’s been found to have lied and breached the ministerial code. She needs to go as per their own rules.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Do they say she lied and breached the ministerial code or is that spin?

The quote I’ve seen says “potentially” breach the ministerial code which is far from a done and dusted conviction in a proper court.
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Do they say she lied and breached the ministerial code or is that spin?

The quote I’ve seen says “potentially” breach the ministerial code which is far from a done and dusted conviction in a proper court.
Lying in the Scottish Parliament is a serious breach of the ministerial code and it specifically says when this rule is breached, it should result in resignation.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Well if Boris is the standard, she's in the clear...
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Well if Boris is the standard, she's in the clear...
It’s the same shit, different day with you all the time. Same applies to you what I said to Dave42, list all the times British Parliament has been found to have been misled by Committee based inquiry?

I’ve already listed one time it was by Labour, you do the rest or stop talking bollocks.

Do it.
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