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Old 17-10-2019, 08:30   #1336
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I don’t see how the DUP rejecting everything is in the long term interests of the union. Northern Ireland now has a way out of the backstop and they’re still not happy because they don’t have a veto themselves.
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I don’t see how the DUP rejecting everything is in the long term interests of the union. Northern Ireland now has a way out of the backstop and they’re still not happy because they don’t have a veto themselves.
They're being difficult because they know the more they dig their heels in now the quicker the magic money tree will grow another branch or two - like everyone else they realise as soon as there's a general election they'll be kicked in to the grass if the Conservatives win an overall majority. You can't blame them.
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They're being difficult because they know the more they dig their heels in now the quicker the magic money tree will grow another branch or two - like everyone else they realise as soon as there's a general election they'll be kicked in to the grass if the Conservatives win an overall majority. You can't blame them.
It is worth remembering DUP did not support the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement and we all know what happened there.
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Surely it's now Brexit extension and election? The DUP have pushed their luck too far.
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Surely it's now Brexit extension and election? The DUP have pushed their luck too far.
But Boris Johnson said he would rather "die in a ditch" then ask for another extension.
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Surely it's now Brexit extension and election? The DUP have pushed their luck too far.
It’s not over ‘til it’s over.
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But Boris Johnson said he would rather "die in a ditch" then ask for another extension.
He's got a strong hand though to extend. He's arguably proven the "he's not interested in a deal" doubters wrong.

"Back me. We leave. With a deal. I've literally shook hands with Barnier and Tusk on it. Let's get Brexit done."

More time is required to get the legislation in place anyway.
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He's got a strong hand though to extend. He's arguably proven the "he's not interested in a deal" doubters wrong.

"Back me. We leave. With a deal. I've literally shook hands with Barnier and Tusk on it. Let's get Brexit done."

More time is required to get the legislation in place anyway.
But it’s a deal worse than the one he resigned over, and voted against?

(Allegedly- it’s on the news now that the EU member states haven’t seen it yet, and it’s hundreds of pages long, which will need checking).
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But it’s a deal worse than the one he resigned over, and voted against?
How so? have you seen it?
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Just on what been reported - updated whilst you were posting.
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But it’s a deal worse than the one he resigned over, and voted against?

(Allegedly- it’s on the news now that the EU member states haven’t seen it yet, and it’s hundreds of pages long, which will need checking).
The public at large in a general election arguably won't care for the detail on that level. I'm sure he can find a way to spin that it's a better deal, allows Britain to move on but respect the GFA.

---------- Post added at 10:46 ---------- Previous post was at 09:58 ----------

We have a deal. Over to Parliament...
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We’ve got a great new deal that takes back control — now Parliament should get Brexit done on Saturday so we can move on to other priorities like the cost of living, the NHS, violent crime and our environment
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DUP still haven’t approved it so No 10 are piling the pressure on
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Here is the text of the new Brexit agreement.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/site...rn_ireland.pdf
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Here is the text of the new Brexit agreement.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/site...rn_ireland.pdf
well I for one cannot be arsed to read it.
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