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Old 06-10-2019, 21:51   #31
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Re: Impeachment enquiry launched into Donald Trump

I thought the first witness had first hand knowledge, turns out they didn’t.

Pity creepy Joe’s chances of obtaining the Democratic nomination, seem to be slipping fast.
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Old 06-10-2019, 22:13   #32
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Re: Impeachment enquiry launched into Donald Trump

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I thought the first witness had first hand knowledge, turns out they didn’t.

Pity creepy Joe’s chances of obtaining the Democratic nomination, seem to be slipping fast.
Didnt need to, under the Whistleblower Statute.

Anyway, he did have first hand knowledge, according to the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community.

https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Docum...Complaints.pdf
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In fact, by law the Complainant – or any individual in the Intelligence Community who wants to report information with respect to an urgent concern to the congressional intelligence committees – need not possess first-hand information in order to file a complaint or information with respect to an urgent concern.
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The Complainant on the form he or she submitted on August 12, 2019 in fact checked two relevant boxes: The first box stated that, “I have personal and/or direct knowledge of events or records involved”; and the second box stated that, “Other employees have told me about events or records involved.”
As part of his determination that the urgent concern appeared credible, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community determined that the Complainant had official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix, including direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct, and that the Complainant has subject matter expertise related to much of the material information provided in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix. In short, the ICIG did not find that the Complainant could “provide nothing more than second-hand or unsubstantiated assertions,”
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Old 06-10-2019, 23:48   #33
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Re: Impeachment enquiry launched into Donald Trump

He didn’t have, did have. Fake bullshit antics from the pathetic Democrats.
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Old 07-10-2019, 00:14   #34
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He didnít have, did have. Fake bullshit antics from the pathetic Democrats.
What do the whistle-blowers have to do with the Democrats? We can't assume their politics one way or the other.
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What do the whistle-blowers have to do with the Democrats? We can't assume their politics one way or the other.
Course you can if it helps discredit what they're saying...
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Re: Impeachment enquiry launched into Donald Trump

Again though, the White House transcripts themselves alongside the text messages revealed look bad for Trump.
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Re: Impeachment enquiry launched into Donald Trump

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Again though, the White House transcripts themselves alongside the text messages revealed look bad for Trump.
Maybe the stenographer on duty that day was a lying left wing commie democrat who saw their chance to discredit Trump .
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Old 07-10-2019, 09:41   #38
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Again though, the White House transcripts themselves alongside the text messages revealed look bad for Trump.
Not an Impeachable conduct, the President of the United States should be entitled to have a private conversation with another foreign leader on a whole raft of issues, but because it's Trump, this doesn't seem to matter.

Let's face it, the loser Democrats have not got over their candidate, Hillary losing in 2016, they've been wanting to impeach Trump the day he took office, several attempts to initiate Articles of Impeachment against Trump have failed, The Russian collusion hoax, was a complete failure to them, so here we are, just over a year from 2020 election with not a hope in hell of any of the candidates beating Trump, so they are abusing the political tools, enshrined in the Constitution to remove a sitting President, only one problem, Democrats don't control the Senate, where it matters.

But just look at the issues going on with the Democrats at the moment - You have this Biden scandal with his son playing out, seriously dampening his chances of even winning the Democratic nomination.

Bernie Sanders, the Jeremy Corbyn equivalent to socialism, having a heart attack in last few days: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/u...-hospital.html - so it's looking like he will not be even fit enough to be President.

Several other Democratic candidates, basically nobodies, advocating Gun control measures, second amendment tweaking that will definitively stop Americans who love their guns, to vote for these.

Democrats have shifted to the far left and the average American won't vote for them in 2020.

There are whispers abound that even Hillary may run again.
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Re: Impeachment enquiry launched into Donald Trump

It's not a "private conversation" if it's about Government business and dozens of people are listening in to record it for posterity - if he wanted a private conversation, Trump should have done what he did when he met Putin*; not have US staff or note takers present.

*at the November 2018 G20 summit in Argentina, and at the July 2017 G20 summit* in Germany.

*tbf, Putin's translator was present at both of these (but not Trump's), and Melania was present at Argentina
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It's not a "private conversation" if it's about Government business and dozens of people are listening in to record it for posterity - if he wanted a private conversation, Trump should have done what he did when he met Putin*; not have US staff or note takers present.

*at the November 2018 G20 summit in Argentina, and at the July 2017 G20 summit* in Germany.

*tbf, Putin's translator was present at both of these (but not Trump's), and Melania was present at Argentina
So are you saying all Government business should be public? Recording for posterity is not the same as making public.
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So are you saying all Government business should be public? Recording for posterity is not the same as making public.
No, I’m not saying that - I’m saying it wasn’t a "private conversation".

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Re: Impeachment enquiry launched into Donald Trump

And what has that got to do with the impeachment enquiry ?
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