Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It’s about getting things into proportion.

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In my experience, people were breaking the rules well before we got to hear about the (ahem) parties.

You cannot seriously conflate lies about holding parties (if that is proved) with lies that directly led to many deaths in an invasion. Unless, of course, the person making such claims lacks a sense of proportion.

Actually I think the public were sticking to the rules admirably right up until Gollum went to barnard castle for an eye test or had you forgotten he was part of government conveniently and I didn't think I conflated anything, just wondered why you can't be disappointed with both of them

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

No need to be worried about Blair these days - he's not in power. Like others who came before him, he was rightly held to account at the time.

We need to focus on the present.

We can focus on the present without forgetting the past and we certainly can hold them both to account without the need for a league table of who was worse

Originally Posted by Mr K

Think it's called 'whataboutery' Andrew and conveniently ignores the fact the Conservative leader and party were fully behind the war at the time. The main opposition came from within the Labour Party...

Anyway what about that terrible tory Ted Heath taking us into the EEC? What a rotter ! Or Neville Chamberlain signing a pact with Hitler...

And Lord Rothermere having dinner with Hitler and moaning about the influx of Jews entering the country, somethings never change with that rag

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Quite right, pip, but everything gets twisted on here.

Yes mainly by you

[Carth]

No.10 now concede a leadership challenge is inevitable.

Gosh, I hope they find someone as a leader that hasn't broken any lock down rules . . . not that we'd know until the knives start flying again

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Carth

Gosh, I hope they find someone as a leader that hasn't broken any lock down rules . . . not that we'd know until the knives start flying again

….. as long as it’s none of the current nodding fools on the front bench, particularly Raab.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

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….. as long as it’s none of the current nodding fools on the front bench, particularly Rabat.[/COLOR]

Still confused about Patel. Smiling at Johnson today, cringing at him last week!

We've heard from the likes of Gary Streeter and Anthony Mangnall today but the silence from the leafy environs of RG40 is perturbing. When is Redwood going to help put Johnson out of his misery?

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

….. as long as it’s none of the current nodding fools on the front bench, particularly Raab.

I'd sooner have David Davis. I may disagree with him on Brexit but he seems to be a man of honour.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

….. as long as it’s none of the current nodding fools on the front bench, particularly Raab.

Mrs Raab needs to get down to M&S for some new underware as he sits on that front bench looking like a chap whose boxers are too tight.

OB’s got competition for Johnson’s affections…

Originally Posted by pip08456

I doubt that is what OB is saying.

No but I say it.

FFS we are talking parties that no one knew of in any of the lockdowns so how people can have foresight that the government was breaking its own rules, at the time, is beyond me. It’s utterly ludicrous to suggest the people who died of Covid, many did do because they decided to ignore rules because the government did too, we now only know, no one knew back then.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Actually I think the public were sticking to the rules admirably right up until Gollum went to barnard castle for an eye test

Maybe round your area ? not so much around here.
I saw the size of gatherings, and distancing rules, "bent" many times.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by pip08456

I can tell the difference about lying about a party which harmed no-one

How do you know it harmed no-one? Where did Boris catch Covid? That almost killed him.

[1andrew1]

Understand that Conservative MPs have moved on from "Wait to the Gray Report" to "Wait to the "May report". The latter being how well the Party fares in the local elections in May, and not anything written by the previous PM.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Understand that Conservative MPs have moved on from "Wait to the Gray Report" to "Wait to the "May report". The latter being how well the Party fares in the local elections in May, and not anything written by the previous PM.

I'd prefer they wait for the Genetal Election defeat before changing leader. Suits me and the Opposition !

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mr K

I'd prefer they wait for the General Election defeat before changing leader. Suits me and the Opposition !

Even if the Conservatives win the next election and Johnson is still leader, I doubt he would retain his Uxbridge seat.

That's a calculation some of the more astute Conservative Party MPs are surely making.

Originally Posted by Mr K

I'd prefer they wait for the Genetal Election defeat before changing leader. Suits me and the Opposition !

Freudian slip?

[GrimUpNorth]

All this party stuff set my spider sense tingling about a photo I saw in my google news feed around the time of Brexit. Anyway, we were talking about it yesterday in a team meeting so a quick google and we found this. It was published in the Daily Mail on 26th December 2020 and the photo of Borris with his feet up and the empty beer bottles on the desk is from 'earlier this week' so could be around the time of the so-called parties! (if you look carefully at one of the other photos, you can also see what could be a tray with some nice cut crystal whisky glasses but is there a decanter?)

The other question we had though, what is Borris drinking on the photo where he's looking at the big pile of documents?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

All this party stuff set my spider sense tingling about a photo I saw in my google news feed around the time of Brexit. Anyway, we were talking about it yesterday in a team meeting so a quick google and we found this. It was published in the Daily Mail on 26th December 2020 and the photo of Borris with his feet up and the empty beer bottles on the desk is from 'earlier this week' so could be around the time of the so-called parties! (if you look carefully at one of the other photos, you can also see what could be a tray with some nice cut crystal whisky glasses but is there a decanter?)

The other question we had though, what is Borris drinking on the photo where he's looking at the big pile of documents?

Good research!

The empty beer bottles look like Heineken alcohol-free. Possibly carefully placed there for photos to look casual but sensible?

The tinny next to the big pile of documents is some kind of craft beer but whether it is alcohol-free or not I don't know. I suspect it is a regular 5% craft beer.