Multiculturalism is dangerous

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

They are more common in France because another culture has reached critical mass.

People just don’t seem to be able to draw lessons from the mistakes of others, do they? You rightly pointed out that if we get to the same critical mass, our country could go the same way, and the response is we’re different - we’re not there yet.

Unbelievable.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

People just don’t seem to be able to draw lessons from the mistakes of others, do they? You rightly pointed out that if we get to the same critical mass, our country could go the same way, and the response is we’re different - we’re not there yet.

Unbelievable.

For someone who over indulges in the soup of British exceptionalism on a regular basis, I’m surprised at your approach here.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

People just don’t seem to be able to draw lessons from the mistakes of others, do they? You rightly pointed out that if we get to the same critical mass, our country could go the same way, and the response is we’re different - we’re not there yet.

Unbelievable.

You are so right, OB.

The critics of my warning are so wrapped up in their contrariness, their hatred of any Conservative, their unwillingness to digest what’s going on in a country just 22 miles away from ours.

They’ve even tried taking us down the “extreme right” rabbit hole.

They seem so sure that it won’t happen here, despite the warnings of 7/7.

At the present rate, it’s only a matter of time before we’ll all be facing east.

And then, those in charge will also say that multiculturalism is dangerous!

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

You are so right, OB.

The critics of my warning are so wrapped up in their contrariness, their hatred of any Conservative, their unwillingness to digest what’s going on in a country just 22 miles away from ours.

They’ve even tried taking us down the “extreme right” rabbit hole.

They seem so sure that it won’t happen here, despite the warnings of 7/7.

At the present rate, it’s only a matter of time before we’ll all be facing east.

And then, those in charge will also say that multiculturalism is dangerous!

Surely it’s the Conservatives open door policy on immigration that’s the problem?

Illegal immigration barely touches the sides of our population growth, let along the headline population figure as a whole.

With the best will in the world they are playing you both like a fiddle.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jfman

Surely it’s the Conservatives open door policy on immigration that’s the problem?

Illegal immigration barely touches the sides of our population growth, let along the headline population figure as a whole.

With the best will in the world they are playing you both like a fiddle.

You are totally missing the point, John.

Whoever is at fault, and the government is a total failure on this, we must avoid falling further into the "multiculturalism is good" trap.

It doesn't work - as France is demonstrating. See my first post for details.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

For someone who over indulges in the soup of British exceptionalism on a regular basis, I’m surprised at your approach here.

Do change the record, jfman.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Do change the record, jfman.

The only records round here is the broken records of failed Conservative policy.

Multiculturalism is here and irreversible. This Government isn’t going to change that.

The birth rate where at least one parent wasn’t born in the UK is disproportionately higher than those that where both were. Poland, Pakistan, Romania, India, Bangladesh, Nigeria and Somalia accounting for the most (by nationality of mother).

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

Multiculturalism is here and irreversible.

Multiple cultures are here and are irreversible.

Multiculturalism, where these disparate cultures all get along together under the umbrella of a nation state?……………………not so much.

[Ms NTL]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Your virtue signalling is missing the point.

The unfortunate criminal who was shot by police triggered something that a critical mass of a different culture then took up: violence and destruction.

Beware the same mob violence happening here.

I stand corrected.

I was not aware that the Algerian kid was a "criminal". The kid had no criminal record because the police did not prosecute him for umpteen crimes.

Also, I was not aware that the kid started the engine and tried to hit the cop (maybe, maybe not). The kid's friend, sitting in the back said that the kid's foot slipped on the gas petal accidently, because the second policeman was hitting him.....
Self-defence ? I dunno.

But, I am concerned of this....

A fundraiser on GoFundMe for the accused officer's family was set up by Jean Messiha, a former advisor for Marine Le Pen, a French far-right politician.[57] When it closed on 4 July, it had raised €1,636,200 in support of the family of the officer involved in the shooting, far greater than the €200,000 raised in support of Merzouk's family. The officer's family will receive €625,000 after taxation and platform fees.[58][59]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Nahel_Merzouk

[Sephiroth]

@Ms NTL

Your explanation of events shows the state of turmoil that now subsists in France. We must not get to that point here - we're close enough as it is.

[1andrew1]

I'm confused by bewildered Brexiters on this thread bemoaning the increase in multi-culturalism since Brexit.

If you want the UK to be able to recruit the best talent from around the world and not just from the EU, then this is a natural consequence of deploying our Brexit freedoms.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

People just don’t seem to be able to draw lessons from the mistakes of others, do they? You rightly pointed out that if we get to the same critical mass, our country could go the same way, and the response is we’re different - we’re not there yet.

Unbelievable.

As I pointed out over two years ago, when you previously started a thread about the same subject…

You don’t seem to understand that Islam isn’t a culture, but is a religion that has many cultures, and branches (Sunni, Shi'a, Ibadi, Ahmadiyya, and Sufism) within it.

Indonesian Muslims are culturally different from Middle Eastern Muslims, who are different from African Muslims, who are different from American Muslims.

Saying "Islam is one culture" makes as much sense as saying "Christians all think the same way".

Also, thinking that Sunnis, Shias, and Sufis would all think the same way and work as a monolithic entity when voting is easily disproven when you see the internecine strife in the Middle East.

So, demographics have shown your fear of being ‘submerged’ isn’t based on actuality, and I have explained why trying to lump Islam as a single culture isn’t based on observable evidence.

[Sephiroth]

Where in the pist you quoted was Islam mentioned? Yoy’ve gone off on one.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Where in the pist you quoted was Islam mentioned? Yoy’ve gone off on one.

What religion are Algerians?

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

What religion are Algerians?

Sunni Muslims apparently (over 99%).