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Old 06-05-2005, 09:15   #1
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Wireless setup randomly dropping

Hi guys I havent posted much on here but read through a lot of the posts for help and the latest views / news.

I have a question which I have searched for on here but couldnt find anything exactly the same. (maybe im not lookin hard enough)

Anyway, I have 2 pcs in the house. the one downstairs has the cable modem attached via usb and internet connection is pretty much perfect. never drops etc... I also have a wireless card in this pc and a wireless card in my upstairs pc. I have set up the connectivity fine and can surf the net from upstairs ok. but now and again the bottom right hand flashing computers stop, then about 10 seconds later my wireless icon signal strength vanishes, then i get the message saying the connection has been disconnected / not connected. it seems to happen randomly. For me to get the upstairs connection back i have to disable then re-enable the wireless connection from downstairs, then disable and re-enable the one upstairs.

Anyone got any ideas why or solutions. firewalls are disable, antivirus and spyware etc.. disabled or not conflicting, and they are only about 15 metres apart.

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Old 06-05-2005, 09:54   #2
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Re: Wireless setup randomly dropping

The most common cause of wireless signal problems is interference - other stuff using the 2.4Ghz band, the microwave being the obvious.

Most wireless cards will allow you to change the channel, so try setting it to something like channel 1 or 10.

Alternatively, invest in a wireless router. They tend to be more robust than ad-hoc connections and you won't have to leave to downstairs PC on while you use the upstairs one.

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Old 06-05-2005, 10:01   #3
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Re: Wireless setup randomly dropping

As you have found out, wireless connections are not always reliable.

What type of wireless connection do you have?

I suggest you try to find the signal strength and quality of the wireless connection when the computers are connected. In my experience, both need to be over 50% for a reliable connection.

Because most wireless network connections work at a high frequency, they are very susceptible to the position of the aerials and objects around them - even people. Brick walls will cause a lot of attenuation. Try moving the aerials about or, if they are removable, you could try using a magmount to move it away from your PC. You could also try another aerial with more gain.
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Re: Wireless setup randomly dropping

thanks for the replies. signal strength, the majority of the time says good or excellent. the signal bar in the corner is pretty much always right up i.e. good connection.

How do you setup a wireless router briefly? seems like i might try that if channel changing does not have any effect
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Re: Wireless setup randomly dropping

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How do you setup a wireless router briefly?
Plug it in ! Most wireless routers will work 'out of the box'. However, they are insecure at defaults, so you should read the 'Wireless Security' thread in this forum and set some security.
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Old 06-05-2005, 12:07   #6
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Re: Wireless setup randomly dropping

What sort of wireless cards are they?

I had the same problems with a Linksys card. Nothing i did on the router ever seemed to make a difference. Eventually i hard wired it.
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Re: Wireless setup randomly dropping

they are netgear cards. ive just been told i cant use a wireless router cos im using NTL cable modem?
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Re: Wireless setup randomly dropping

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they are netgear cards. ive just been told i cant use a wireless router cos im using NTL cable modem?
Wrong. You can.
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Re: Wireless setup randomly dropping

As long as it's a wireless router that is cable compatable and NOT an ADSL modem/router
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Re: Wireless setup randomly dropping

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they are netgear cards. ive just been told i cant use a wireless router cos im using NTL cable modem?
No wonder your problem sounded familiar. I had the same problem with Netgear wireless cards until a colleague told me to ditch them and get something better. I got a 3Com adapter and now the problem is gone.
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Re: Wireless setup randomly dropping

sorry what do you mean an adapter? 2 new cards that are 3com and not netgear?
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Re: Wireless setup randomly dropping

Yes, sorry. I replaced my Netgear USB wireless cards with 3Com USB wireless cards.
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Re: Wireless setup randomly dropping

As a related follow up to this topic. I can use my laptop with wireless connection (PCI Card) to the PC upstairs anywhere in the house except the kitchen. The signal strength using a Linksys WRT54G router into a ntl cable modem is excellent everywhere else. The kitchen is not the furthest place away from the router so I can only assume that fridges, freezers, pots and pans and lots of metal objects must affect the signal.
I've tried changing the frequencies but there was no difference.
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Re: Wireless setup randomly dropping

bert,

You're probably spot on about the interference.

Microwaves, the motors in fridges and freezers, large amounts of metal (pots, pans etc), will all contrive to scatter/distort the signal.

But you know what they say, if you can't stand the interference stay out of the kitchen......


(Which reminds me: If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen, if you still can't stand the heat your house is on fire )
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I am also using the linksys bb router - i must say it runs like a dream - far better than i ever thought it would. In the kitchen it works fine no problem!
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