02-06-2008, 19:05
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#7861
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I'm on a BT connection and get a 403 Forbidden for http://www.webwise.com/privacy/opt/
Regards...
T
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02-06-2008, 19:56
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#7862
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Notice of the event has been sent to the UKCrypto mailing list by Mr Nicholas Bohm
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pi...ne/084761.html
Alexander Hanff
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02-06-2008, 21:26
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#7863
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Services: Virgin - BB,TV,Phone
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Posts: 270
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
It may have already been mentioned but can we set up some form of online petition whereby people who cannot attend the event on the 16th can add their name to the petition demanding a criminal investigation to be handed in at the Metropolitan Police station.
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02-06-2008, 21:43
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#7864
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by icsys
It may have already been mentioned but can we set up some form of online petition whereby people who cannot attend the event on the 16th can add their name to the petition demanding a criminal investigation to be handed in at the Metropolitan Police
station.
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i was thinking something slightly different.
if most people have access to a PC or mobile phone cam then they could make a short (no longer than 30 seconds or 1 minute max) video clip and upload it to something like Youtube and then link that to a current.TV thread with your transcipt of your video and other comments you want to say,linked from here.
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02-06-2008, 22:02
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#7865
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by popper
i was thinking something slightly different.
if most people have access to a PC or mobile phone cam then they could make a short (no longer than 30 seconds or 1 minute max) video clip and upload it to something like Youtube and then link that to a current.TV thread with your transcipt of your video and other comments you want to say,linked from here.
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Yes I think a "Video Petition" is an excellent idea, we could even set up a YouTube group specifically for it. In fact I will do so right now. How very 21st Century
Alexander Hanff
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http://www.youtube.com/group/AntiPhorm
I would suggest people start their videos stating their name (first name only I suggest) and their ISP and then go on to their complaint and any solutions (such as they will be leaving their ISP if the deployment of Phorm goes ahead).
Alexander Hanff
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02-06-2008, 22:24
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#7866
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
also, if you dont have access to a cam, or want to stay somewhat anonymous, as in not record your voice and/or show a picture of yourself, then you can still have your say by using something like this simple rebol front end to a text to speech engine.
http://www.rebol.net/plugin/demos/new-demos/speak.html
and then save it off as a wave sound file once you have tuned it to speak properly (phonetic spelling sounds better for some words etc)in the voice of your choice.
i would suggest you also include some static pictures to make your final anonymous "Video Petition", "video protest" (anyone know of a good free app for taking the wave and including pictures to make your video from windows and linux ?).
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02-06-2008, 22:56
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#7867
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Inactive
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kent
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
nothing in the london papers today alex, got the standard, londonlite and londonpaper,
missed the metro on the way up as to late
peter
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02-06-2008, 22:58
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#7868
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I have been in correspondence with Paul Whitehouse (FIPR's advisory board member - ex police) with regards the best way of presenting our case file to the police. The case will be presented to the City of London police as they are the force with jurisdiction over BT HQ.
He has also provided me with some very useful advice regarding witness statements for inclusion with the case file.
If anyone knows they were a victim of the trials either in 2006 or 2007 please could you contact me via pm as soon as possible. Furthermore, if anyone consulted on issues during this phase which were related to the trials (i.e. technicians who attempted to discover the nature of the problems user experienced) their witness statements would also prove useful, so please contact me.
Alexander Hanff
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02-06-2008, 23:18
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#7869
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deko
I would expect the PIA not to be made public in full just selected quotes that suit phorm.
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Alex, if the PIA is supressed and Kent quotes out of context, do you know if Simon will be allowed to correct these statements?
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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff
Can anyone planning to attend the AGM as a shareholder or proxy holder please contact me by PM so we can discuss some tactics and how to deal with any security that might attempt to eject you from the meeting.
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Just to make it clear, if you have got security after you, run around a little and keep saying "Don't tase me bros". Educational video of doing it right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE
Unfortunatley you will get tased, but your pain will be our win
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BT trial of Phorm to go ahead despite planned AGM pickets:
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/ne...ckets-368.html
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Despite widespread privacy concerns, the company has confirmed the trial will begin "in the next few weeks"
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02-06-2008, 23:21
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#7870
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by serial
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They have been saying "the next few weeks" for the last few months.
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With Phorm they get to take advantage of the data they have on their users and so benefit from that relationship.
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Erm, the whole point of data protection legislation and regulations is to prevent companies from "taking advantage" of their customers.
Alexander Hanff
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02-06-2008, 23:42
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#7871
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Location: Reading Berks
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deko
I am all for girls with nice cleavage helping us out, where can we get one ??
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Surley some suitable young lady would love to wear a sash with "Miss Inphormed" on it
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02-06-2008, 23:51
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#7872
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bristol
Services: Aquiss.net and loving it.
No more Virgin Media, no more Virgin Phone, no more Virgin Mobile.
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff
They have been saying "the next few weeks" for the last few months.
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IMHO they've got the same chance of launching Webwise by the AGM as Kent Ertugrul is the love child of Elvis.
Pete.
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03-06-2008, 00:06
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#7873
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Inactive
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Services: Virgin - BB,TV,Phone
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
And why do the media continue to publish that...
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So far Phorm has signed up BT, Virgin Media and Talk Talk which it claims will give the network a potential reach of 70% of broadband users within a few months. Drayton predicts that the rollout will mean within "the next couple of months" the network will be available to one in four UK web users.
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03-06-2008, 00:29
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by serial
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What Samknows states is a pile of sh*t*. Its fairly obvious BT (Bl**dy Thickh**ded) is going to go ahead with the trials. After all the recent public (VERY none legal) trials and tribulations they must be dying to do something that is nearer to the none legal definition. Problem is: It's still not legal. Going by the saying your only as good as your last ....(fill in the gaps). Anything they do must be slightly less illegal than the previous very illegal previous trials.
The big problem is: illegal is illegal. 1 per cent illegal is not much different to 100 per cent illegal.
If I murder 1 innocent. I am guilty of murder. If I murder 100 innocent people I am still guilty of murder. The question should be asked. Why was I allowed to murder 99 other people.
ICO Please respond!!!! #
YOU ARE FAILING YOUR REMIT
Phorm is illegal.
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03-06-2008, 00:52
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#7875
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I just read that samknows press article again...
So BT have said the trial is an initial roll out
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Hugo Drayton, Phorm's UK CEO :
"The big things is that as long as Phorm doesn't store personally identifiable information, so long as it just gives you a unique ID number [1] but doesn't know your real name, then there's no reason for it to be seen as harmful or too Big Brother."
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[1] Isn't the unique ID number 'personal' to the user and thus the user is 'identifiable' to the system?
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