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Old 01-08-2021, 11:10   #1
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Halogen bulb ban

"Sales of halogen lightbulbs are to be banned in the UK from September, with fluorescent lights to follow, under government climate change plans."

And that will probably include CFL's.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57407233
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Old 01-08-2021, 11:29   #2
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Re: Halogen bulb ban

I wonder if this will include the bulbs needed for halogen ovens?
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Old 01-08-2021, 11:57   #3
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Re: Halogen bulb ban

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I wonder if this will include the bulbs needed for halogen ovens?
No, they'll continue to be sold.
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High Voltage will continue to sell halogen lighting for as long as I have it in stock, but once it’s gone, it’s gone. However, certain specialist halogen lights – such as oven bulbs – I’ll continue to sell.
https://highvoltagewholesale.co.uk/?p=384
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"Sales of halogen lightbulbs are to be banned in the UK from September, with fluorescent lights to follow, under government climate change plans."

And that will probably include CFL's.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57407233
CFLs are crap anyway, and I swapped my Halogen outside floodlights to LED last year.

This is one simple move that won’t really have an impact to the consumer, unlike some others in the pipeline.
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Re: Halogen bulb ban

LED lamps tend to have poor Power Factor values. Another kick in the pants if Smart meters are allowed to charge consumers by kVA instead of kWh.
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Re: Halogen bulb ban

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No, they'll continue to be sold.

https://highvoltagewholesale.co.uk/?p=384
Phew, thanks Andrew.

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CFLs are crap anyway, and I swapped my Halogen outside floodlights to LED last year.

This is one simple move that won’t really have an impact to the consumer, unlike some others in the pipeline.
I have a halogen oven that uses them to cook as they get so hot. Did your floodlights get really hot and use a lot of power, or are these different to the type used in ovens?
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I have a halogen oven that uses them to cook as they get so hot. Did your floodlights get really hot and use a lot of power, or are these different to the type used in ovens?
These are really heating elements whose prime purpose is making heat for cooking so they're exempt.

For lighting we should really be moving to LED. It'll take a long time for the old bulbs to get removed. I still have many traditional filament bulbs in rooms where they are rarely used and often on dimmers.
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Did your floodlights get really hot and use a lot of power, or are these different to the type used in ovens?
I just use them for lighting the driveway. Never thought to cook with them.
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Re: Halogen bulb ban

A non event for me.

I've never had a Halogen Bulb.

I switched from filament to CFL a few years ago (as replacements were needed) and then started replcing them with LEDs about 3 years ago.

The last of my fluorescent tubes went two years ago when I had my kitched redone, that and my conservatory are using LED spots now.

I still have one CFL (in the hall, not used often)
I actually still have one filament bulb (rarely used, so still hanging on).
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Re: Halogen bulb ban

We were given some CFL's by electricity supplier and still have plenty of those as well as some filament bulbs. Bulbs can last a long time.
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Old 02-08-2021, 12:32   #11
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Re: Halogen bulb ban

Is it more environmentally friendly/cheaper to use up inefficient bulbs and use more electricity than it is to:throw away working bulbs and buy the modern efficient ones to save electricity/money?
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Is it more environmentally friendly/cheaper to use up inefficient bulbs and use more electricity than it is to:throw away working bulbs and buy the modern efficient ones to save electricity/money?
Probably yes. Unless your usage is really, really high.
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Re: Halogen bulb ban

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Is it more environmentally friendly/cheaper to use up inefficient bulbs and use more electricity than it is to:throw away working bulbs and buy the modern efficient ones to save electricity/money?
"More environmentally friendly" isn't easy to assess, but you could certainly work out whether it would be cheaper for you.

For example:
Replace a 100W incandescent with a 15W LED bulb that costs £1.45. You are saving 0.085kWh for every hour that it's turned on. If you pay 20p per kWh for your electricity, the bulb will pay for itself after 85 hours use. So definitely worthwhile for a bulb you use several hours a day; not so for a rarely-used one.
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Re: Halogen bulb ban

Doesn't affect cars either.

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It will cost some companies hundreds of thousands to get rid of fluorescent tubes and replace fittings and bulbs.


One company I worked for had several thousand, so they could meet the DSE regulations.


For me, I have 23 Phillips Hue bulbs 12 are the full colour at £50 a pop.
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Re: Halogen bulb ban

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It will cost some companies hundreds of thousands to get rid of fluorescent tubes and replace fittings and bulbs.

One company I worked for had several thousand, so they could meet the DSE regulations.

For me, I have 23 Phillips Hue bulbs 12 are the full colour at £50 a pop.
I don't think anyone has to strip out fluorescent tubes, they just can't sell them after a certain date so distributors and shops will just run down stocks before then.
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