Chelsea Transfers Killing Football

[Shadow Demon UK]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Have you ever done it? If not, what do you base your opinion on?

Have you ever been a Premiership footballer? If not what do you base your opinion on?

I'm not saying that top bankers don't deserve the money they get or that it's easy, i'm just comparing the amount they earn, which is similar to top football players, but the fact it isn't scrutinised as much even though they are both highly skilled proffesions.

[AntiSilence]

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

What a great argument you made there

I'm not making any arguments, that's just how I feel about football.

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

Have you ever been a Premiership footballer? If not what do you base your opinion on?

I'm not saying that top bankers don't deserve the money they get or that it's easy, i'm just comparing the amount they earn, which is similar to top football players, but the fact it isn't scrutinised as much even though they are both highly skilled proffesions.

Well Bankers are not idolized in the stupid fashion Footballers are.

People don't moan about those who work in banks and in the city that earn similar amounts to footballers, even though theres probably more skill to being a footballer than a boss of a big company.

Skill maybe, but Intelligence and importance less so. There are lots of skills people have that are rare, only football and a few other sports pay such a high premium when it's not an important skill in any sense of the word.

The amount of money footballers make is a fault of the system of football and not the players. They deserve the money they get since they are the ones earning it, but there should not be so much money to be made from commercialized football

[Shadow Demon UK]

Originally Posted by Damien

Skill maybe, but Intelligence and importance less so. There are lots of skills people have that are rare, only football and a few other sports pay such a high premium when it's not an important skill in any sense of the word.

So are you suggesting that ony intelligent people should be allowed to earn high wages? Some would say entertainment is very important in life as well and football is one way of entertainment that a lot of people enjoy, so you could say it is just as important.

Originally Posted by Damien

The amount of money footballers make is a fault of the system of football and not the players. They deserve the money they get since they are the ones earning it, but there should not be so much money to be made from commercialized football

If people are willing to pay whats the problem? I'm happy paying the subscription for sky sports, as many others are. People aren't forced to buy merchandise or subscribe to sky or go to matches, they do it because they want to, and that is where the majority of money in football is from.

No one is saying it should be banned, just that it's too big and it's importance has gotten way out of control. Footballers and their girlfriends with autobiographies. Footballers idolized to a stupid degree and so on.

It's just football in the end, and it's excessive obsession with fame and cash is part of the reason the game is actually suffering when you get to the local leagues. It's also become less of a competition and more about who can spend the most each season in order to win the cup.

So are you suggesting that ony intelligent people should be allowed to earn high wages? Some would say entertainment is very important in life as well and football is one way of entertainment that a lot of people enjoy, so you could say it is just as important.

Answer what I said, not what you would have liked me to say. Footballers deserve their money since they earn it and better they get it than the club/board. My point is the obsession with football and the cash wrapped up in the game is stupidly high, is ruining football, and is leading to footballers being idolized in a stupid fashion.

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

Have you ever been a Premiership footballer? If not what do you base your opinion on?

I'm not saying that top bankers don't deserve the money they get or that it's easy, i'm just comparing the amount they earn, which is similar to top football players, but the fact it isn't scrutinised as much even though they are both highly skilled proffesions.

I base my opinion on the fact that I have run large departments in multi-national companies, and my brother played professional football, and we have discussed and compared the differences and similiarities, and the values/benefits thereof.

I've answered your question - it would be nice / polite if you answered mine (since I asked first); what do you base your opinion on?

[kingbuxton]

I look at it this way. A football career is a gamble. Think of the lad that goes into football rather than a regular job or higher education, gets to 30 and hasn't made it, retires from footy and now has to get a job! That is a nasty situation, not enough money to carry him through fifty years, no education and no experience and in your thirties, absolute nightmare. Most players (Sheringham aside) are done and dusted at 32 - 34 - you HAVE to have earned enough cash to let you live for 50 years, so I really don't begrudge them.

I mean how much did Jolie just get paid for pics of her kid?

Chelsea, hard one. On one hand Abramovich can spend his cash on whatever he wants, it is his club. BUT, Chelsea are living beyond their means, if he was to leave they can't support the squad on ticket sales and merchandise, they just aren't a Madrid/UTD/AC/Barca type of club, so in the long run a short term experiment could land them in a lot of trouble. Shevchenko was a HUGE mistake, should have left him where he was, Jose would still be there, and you just know Drogba will be following him to which ever team he goes to, and minus Drogba, Chelsea could struggle, Drogba is a talent.

And as far as Kaka goes, it's paper talk, don't believe anything that lot write. We (UTD) will be getting linked with half the players in Europe as soon as the Window opens, and none of them will arrive.

But, what Chelsea, more Abramovich, did was introduce a concept of instant success. You can no longer blood kids, you need finished articles otherwise they just roll you over. And that has basically destroyed the youth system of this country, and that is the worst thing about it all. UTD had a youth team that swept all aside and won everything for two seasons, and only Pique seems to have made a claim, the rest are either on loan, stuck in the reserves or sold. See Guiseppe Rossi.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Also, I think you might find there is a bit more to running a company of thousands of people and multi-million pound turnover than there is to kicking a ball about a field.

Thing is though I'd bet there a few people here with the ability to run such a company and quite a few more who are capable of learning the necessary skills to do so, what I wouldn't have thought is that anyone here has the ability to 'kick a ball about a field' with enough competence for it to be worth £100k per week to some one

[PeteTheMusicGuy]

I was just going to add that players have only a short career as well and the money they make does have to do them for life

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Thing is though I'd bet there a few people here with the ability to run such a company and quite a few more who are capable of learning the necessary skills to do so, what I wouldn't have thought is that anyone here has the ability to 'kick a ball about a field' with enough competence for it to be worth £100k per week to some one

Well considering that Sir Alan is going to give a 100k a year job to one of those numpties on the Apprentice (who are supposedly the cream of Entrepeneurs in the UK), I'd have to agree with your post.