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Old 18-07-2022, 10:22   #1471
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Iím really not sure what you are getting at. If there is a long held view held by an influential group of people, that can influence the future. To express a view on how that may come about is a prediction.
You're kidding yourself on if you think in the middle of a recession, with spiraling inflation, lowering living standards a political party is going to make television less affordable and less accessible.
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Old 18-07-2022, 10:29   #1472
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You're kidding yourself on if you think in the middle of a recession, with spiraling inflation, lowering living standards a political party is going to make television less affordable and less accessible.
And what is your prediction for when inflation is under control and Britain is fully functioning again after Covid and Brexit?

Itís only 2022, Mr jfman, as I keep having to remind you.

You talk about the future as if it were the present.

Anyway, letís move on. Once again you are taking us round your circular arguments.

Looking forward to the launch of ITVX, which will draw a lot more people in than to the ITV Hub, I suspect. If they carry lots of new originals which wonít be shown on ITV for months or even at all, they could attract a whole new audience.

If successful, I would not be surprised to see the Beeb doing something similar with their I-Player.
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Old 18-07-2022, 11:13   #1473
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And what is your prediction for when inflation is under control and Britain is fully functioning again after Covid and Brexit?


They might revisit the subject matter however it'll have pushed back any significant changes by years. If not a decade.

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Itís only 2022, Mr jfman, as I keep having to remind you.

You talk about the future as if it were the present.
On the contrary, OB. I take a considered view, grounded in economics, as to how the provision of television to end users may evolve in the coming decades.

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Anyway, letís move on. Once again you are taking us round your circular arguments.
OB you will never move on from your obsession.

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Looking forward to the launch of ITVX, which will draw a lot more people in than to the ITV Hub, I suspect. If they carry lots of new originals which wonít be shown on ITV for months or even at all, they could attract a whole new audience.

If successful, I would not be surprised to see the Beeb doing something similar with their I-Player.
I would be.
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Old 18-07-2022, 11:36   #1474
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Council tax levy could replace TV licence fee in future funding model

Under the proposal all households would pay for the BBC through their local authority bill

The TV licence fee could be abolished and replaced with a new levy on council tax bills, according to a House of Lords committee that looked at the best way to fund the BBC in the future.

Under the proposal, all households would pay for the BBC through their local authority bill, with low-earning families paying less for the broadcaster’s services. This would end the traditional link to owning a television set and ensure that people who only use the BBC’s online or radio services also have to pay to use them.

“We see quite a lot of potential advantages to it,” said the Conservative peer Tina Stowell, who chairs the cross-party House of Lords communications and digital committee.

She said her committee was not definitively backing the council tax-based funding model but said it worked well in Germany. “We see this as a viable proposition that needs to be taken very seriously,” she said.
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Possible models for replacing the licence fee – and the verdict of the House of Lords committee
  • Advertising-funded model: Would result in a “multibillion-pound reduction in income for the BBC” and would harm other commercial broadcasters such as ITV by taking away their advertising income.
  • Netflix-style subscription: Unlikely to produce enough money and technically challenging given the ongoing popularity of traditional television and radio channels. A paywall would cut off large chunks of the public from the BBC, undermining the idea of a national broadcaster.
  • A monthly BBC levy on broadband contracts: Dismissed as little improvement over the existing licence fee and hard to means test. Could put households off signing up to internet connections or other phone contracts.
  • A new ringfenced income tax to fund the BBC: Could be easily means tested but it would be “politically controversial” to add a new line to payslips for BBC funding.
  • A universal council tax levy: Given an approving write-up by the House of Lords committee. They say it would be hard to evade, could be means tested so less well-off people pay less, and would be relatively easy to collect the money.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-funding-model

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Old 18-07-2022, 11:47   #1475
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It needs to be a combination - a subscription based service with a free ad version. The government could decide to fund some public service programmes that other channels donít offer, but this should be strictly limited to what was necessary.

All the other solutions require compulsory payments whether you use BBC services or not. As such, this is unacceptable to a growing number of people.
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Old 18-07-2022, 11:59   #1476
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It needs to be a combination - a subscription based service with a free ad version. The government could decide to fund some public service programmes that other channels donít offer, but this should be strictly limited to what was necessary.

All the other solutions require compulsory payments whether you use BBC services or not. As such, this is unacceptable to a growing number of people.
Do you have a source that it's unacceptable to a growing number of people?
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Old 18-07-2022, 12:20   #1477
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Do you have a source that it's unacceptable to a growing number of people?
If only YouGov had a poll.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/media/tr...-bbc-be-funded

Turns out the licence fee is seeing a rebound in support. With the eye watering cost of living crisis I can only see this increasing in the short to medium term as streamers start to price gouge their base.

I hope those debt laden streamers have hedged against the interest rate rises to come.
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Old 18-07-2022, 12:35   #1478
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"Young people cut back on video streaming services"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62057950
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Piracy is probably part of it, the 2 free apps I use are CinemaHD and sometimes Kodi which is harder to use and keep maintained but I also pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime and considering Disney+ when Tesco do a super cheap offer again.

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Looks like I'll be signing up to Disney+ via Tesco Clubcard vouchers as they now have a £6 of vouchers offer for 3 months of membership, so basically free for someone with vouchers.
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Another million subscribers gone. Wait til the cost of living crisis really starts to hit home.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62226912
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Another million subscribers gone. Wait til the cost of living crisis really starts to hit home.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62226912
To add to it they're testing a charge for watching out of home too, they sure seem to be doing their best to drive customers away.
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To add to it they're testing a charge for watching out of home too, they sure seem to be doing their best to drive customers away.
If that happens, I wonít be continuing my subscription
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To add to it they're testing a charge for watching out of home too, they sure seem to be doing their best to drive customers away.
You thought they would have started to heed the warning signs.

Obviously not it seems.
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You thought they would have started to heed the warning signs.

Obviously not it seems.
The problem is they are now a business looking for a sustainable business model now all that cheap Silicon Valley and vulture capital debt is drying up. The current one with the current levels of debt is, as a few have been saying on here for a number of years, unsustainable.

20 billion dollars is a lot of $8s a month when your service is disposable.
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