Coronavirus

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Paul

I was in my house for 3 weeks with my daughter, and then wife, both getting infected - it still never made it past my body's defences.

Originally Posted by jonbxx

We're riding that wave now - my eldest has it and the rest of us don't. Her red line came up in seconds so she must be riddled with it! Doing daily testing right now to cover options for a hospital appointment later this week. Touch wood, we will keep getting negative results...

We eventually got a hit too when the daughter (2 jabs) tested positive beginning of January and tested positive for a whole 3 weeks. She works from home, as does the wife, and they share the kitchen table (large kitchen/diner) as a workspace. Neither the wife or myself (both 3 jabs) tested positive during that time.

[Mad Max]

I have a pretty heavy cold, usual stuff for this time of year, in fact, I rarely pick up anything, must be the red wine
Did I take a test, nope, and have no intention of doing so.

[nffc]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

I have a pretty heavy cold, usual stuff for this time of year, in fact, I rarely pick up anything, must be the red wine
Did I take a test, nope, and have no intention of doing so.

You potentially should if you're off out anywhere as there's a reasonable chance it could actually be covid.


But in the hypothetical sense, where exactly do we draw the line with this ultimately being "over"? I'd personally right now draw the line at asymptomatic testing; though there is a possibility someone has covid with no symptoms at all, it's probably more likely they do have some, even if it's just mild tiredness, headache, a slightly iffy throat, blocked nose etc. If you're not coughing or sneezing all over the place which forces out then any aerosols are going to come from breathing, talking, singing, etc which isn't as much. Longer term we can't keep testing anyone with any symptoms which aren't normal for them because we'd still need to be giving out LFTs and keeping them around just in case. At some point that does have to end.

Originally Posted by nffc

But in the hypothetical sense, where exactly do we draw the line with this ultimately being "over"? I'd personally right now draw the line at asymptomatic testing; though there is a possibility someone has covid with no symptoms at all, it's probably more likely they do have some, even if it's just mild tiredness, headache, a slightly iffy throat, blocked nose etc. If you're not coughing or sneezing all over the place which forces out then any aerosols are going to come from breathing, talking, singing, etc which isn't as much. Longer term we can't keep testing anyone with any symptoms which aren't normal for them because we'd still need to be giving out LFTs and keeping them around just in case. At some point that does have to end.

I think it will just tail off. This summer will probably be the most 'normal' we've had since this started with no restrictions and low rates once again as people are outdoors more.

Next winter is the big question mark now. Can we get through it without another outbreak that leads to hospitalisation? Will there be another booster program in September and if so, who qualifies?

The final stage will be if it just resembles a normal flu season. Testing might stop then?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Personally, it seems mad not to be vaccinated - but what will do more harm? Losing thousands of medically qualified staff or the risk of becoming infected and passing Covid on to hospital patients? Especially when there are good treatments for the disease.

Cerebral venous thrombosis, thromboembolism and thrombocytopenia are three reasons some quack gave on the radio the other day

[1andrew1]

UK squanders £10bn on defective or unsuitable PPE during pandemic

Health department accounts show largest writedown was £4.7bn for stock bought for higher than current market price

The UK squandered almost £10bn on defective, unsuitable and overpriced personal protective equipment as ministers rushed to meet unprecedented demand at the height of the coronavirus pandemic.

The losses, revealed in the Department of Health and Social Care’s annual report, will put more pressure on the government over its response to the Covid-19 crisis. It follows the recent resignation of Lord Theodore Agnew, the minister responsible for Whitehall efficiency, who criticised the UK government’s “lamentable record” on tackling fraud in a state-backed coronavirus business loan scheme.

The report shows the government had to write down £4.7bn spent on equipment because the market price of equivalent stock was lower than the price paid. An additional £4bn was spent on kit that was either faulty or surplus to requirements.

https://www.ft.com/content/740aa990-...b-0a5ce50b55c8

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

I have a pretty heavy cold, usual stuff for this time of year, in fact, I rarely pick up anything, must be the red wine
Did I take a test, nope, and have no intention of doing so.

Why wouldn't you get a test? Surely it's good to know if you could potentially COVID to others?

It's free and takes 15 minutes...

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

Why wouldn't you get a test? Surely it's good to know if you could potentially COVID to others?

It's free and takes 15 minutes...

I've had two colds in the past 9 months and didn't take a test. I didn't want to know, as simple as that. If symptoms had worsened, then I would have taken a test.

I suspect that many people think that way.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I've had two colds in the past 9 months and didn't take a test. I didn't want to know, as simple as that. If symptoms had worsened, then I would have taken a test.

I suspect that many people think that way.

What about anyone else you came into contact with? They may be worse affected than you ?

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Cerebral venous thrombosis, thromboembolism and thrombocytopenia are three reasons some quack gave on the radio the other day

You are more likely to get those from the disease than the vaccine

https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/374/.../F1.medium.jpg

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

What about anyone else you came into contact with? They may be worse affected than you ?

I hardly go out, except to Waitrose so I didn't come into contact with anyone. Anyway, I had no respiratory issues and was fairly confident, in addition to not wishing to know.

EDIT: I hear you ask "how did you contract the cold?". Prolly my grand-children.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I've had two colds in the past 9 months and didn't take a test. I didn't want to know, as simple as that. If symptoms had worsened, then I would have taken a test.

I suspect that many people think that way.

I think you would want to know because then you would also know you've got even better immunity when combined with the vaccine. I wish I had got an antibody test done before getting the very first vaccine to see if I ever had it in the initial wave.

[heero_yuy]

If you know then you have to self isolate upon pain of £1,000 fine. If not then you don't.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

If you know then you have to self isolate upon pain of £1,000 fine. If not then you don't.

It's almost as if the loophole was made for Boris!

Frankly, my wife and I are half convinced that we've had Covid if only because our grand-daughter was in very close contact at school with a number of kids who tested positive. She tested negative. Likewise the little fellow and his nursery. He's always got a runny nose but tested negative.

What the heck - we don't know and didn't want to. We wear masks (even now) and this week is our first foray into the wider world (beyond Waitrose) as we go and stay overnight at a country hotel. By the way, Schuessler Tissue Salts Formula J manages the cold symptoms very well.

[jonbxx]

That seems so strange to me. I tested to make sure I was clear to see other people and not spread anything to them (and for work as many of my customers require a clear test to visit their sites) Without knowing who you might meet that is vulnerable, it feels the right thing to do.

It certainly wasn't regularly, only if I had sniffles or a few days after riskier events such as watching the Euros or celebrating New Years down the pub. Looking at the NHS app, up until this week, 11 tests in total (more now as I am a contact to a COVID positive daughter and so testing daily)