Coronavirus

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think you need to have the meal but what I am wondering is what is substantial and how long does that then permit you to get multiple pints?

Can I order chips and then spend the rest of the afternoon downing pints or not?

If demand exceeds supply which is likely pre-Christmas, then I think they will be tougher - some pubs I know in not particularly well-to-do areas limited eating and drinking to two-hour slots per person.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If you take London as a region, which you accept, then you take the rate for the region, not for one village/town/borough in London.

Interestingly, not the same logic that other major countries applied, Singapore, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Thailand, South Korea, Taiwan

Almost as if they knew how to handle a pandemic in the first place

[denphone]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Interestingly, not the same logic that other major countries applied, Singapore, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Thailand, South Korea, Taiwan

Almost as if they knew how to handle a pandemic in the first place

Thats because they were well prepared wherever we couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery to put it bluntly.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by denphone

Thats because they were well prepared wherever we couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery to put it bluntly.

Still, I'm sure everything else they're 'planning for' will go swimmingly, with absolutely no cause for concern, alarm or suffering to either people or the economy

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Interestingly, not the same logic that other major countries applied, Singapore, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Thailand, South Korea, Taiwan

Almost as if they knew how to handle a pandemic in the first place

Singapore and Hong Kong can't really be described as regions, they are more or less just cities. Taiwan is an island. They are all relatively geographically isolated. In South Korea, there was none of this constant bellyaching over rules, they just for the most part, behaved themselves.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Singapore and Hong Kong can't really be described as regions, they are more or less just cities. Taiwan is an island. They are all relatively geographically isolated. In South Korea, there was none of this constant bellyaching over rules, they just for the most part, behaved themselves.

They behaved themselves for two reasons.

1) It's in their nature to do so
2) The rules were implemented nationally regardless of deviation.

e.g. Koh Samui (also an island) had an incredibly low case rate, yet was and is subject to the same restrictions as mainland Thailand the last time I checked.

Singapore, outbreaks mainly confirmed to migrant workers accommodation however rules were applied at the entire city state

[jfman]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Yet despite those concerns, it can still go ahead.... hmmmm, i wonder why?

Well it stands to reason that football fans will be unable to pack into pubs if those have additional restrictions too.

Supporters buses are less likely given limits on crowds will have predominantly home fans and bigger clubs having to ballot tickets some among existing season ticket holders.

Public transport unlikely to be overwhelmed by 4000 fans versus 40000 at big clubs. Smaller clubs in local towns and communities more likely to have fans walk to the game.

[Julian]

Originally Posted by denphone

To be honest Devon should have been in the same tier as Cornwall.

Why would they make an exception for Devon Den?

Our figures in Cornwall are clearly deemed as better.

Anyway you make your scones the wrong way round

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by jfman

Well it stands to reason that football fans will be unable to pack into pubs if those have additional restrictions too.

Supporters buses are less likely given limits on crowds will have predominantly home fans and bigger clubs having to ballot tickets some among existing season ticket holders.

Public transport unlikely to be overwhelmed by 4000 fans versus 40000 at big clubs. Smaller clubs in local towns and communities more likely to have fans walk to the game.

Do you go to football matches ?

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Originally Posted by Julian

Why would they make an exception for Devon Den?

Our figures in Cornwall are clearly deemed as better.

Anyway you make your scones the wrong way round

To be fair, I'm sure the scones are all made the same it's the application of clotted cream/jam, conserve which is of dispute.

Personally jam first then cream on top is my go to

[jfman]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Do you go to football matches?

Yes.

I’ve attended games with crowds from 200 to packed cup finals and plenty in between. I’ve done pub crawls to games, been on supporters buses and used public transport too!

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

They behaved themselves for two reasons.

1) It's in their nature to do so
2) The rules were implemented nationally regardless of deviation.

e.g. Koh Samui (also an island) had an incredibly low case rate, yet was and is subject to the same restrictions as mainland Thailand the last time I checked.

Singapore, outbreaks mainly confirmed to migrant workers accommodation however rules were applied at the entire city state

Taiwan is an independent island state, so your example is unsurprisingly meaningless. Koh Samui is only around 10 miles from the mainland.

You mean England didn't have nationally set rules, back in March?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Julian

Why would they make an exception for Devon Den?

Our figures in Cornwall are clearly deemed as better.

Anyway you make your scones the wrong way round

Apparently the decision to put Devon into Tier 2 was made primarily based on the healthcare capacity in the region.

This is of course due to the historic long term underfunding of healthcare in our region.

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Originally Posted by Julian

Anyway you make your scones the wrong way round

l wholeheartedly disagree.

Well what a surprise, London (where all the MPs are) is in T2, while we all suffer T3.

That's the last of any support I had for this government gone, just biased, knee jerk hippocrites.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Paul

Well what a surprise, London (where all the MPs are) is in T2, while we all suffer T3.

That's the last of any support I had for this government gone, just biased, knee jerk hippocrites.

And is that based upon facts or bias?

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Taiwan is an independent island state, so your example is unsurprisingly meaningless. Koh Samui is only around 10 miles from the mainland.

You mean England didn't have nationally set rules, back in March?

I'll treat the bolded with the contempt it as usual deserves...

What on earth does Taiwan being an independent island state have to do with it?

Koh Samui may well be 10 miles away from the mainland but it was met with the same draconian restrictions as the mainland. Yet, in the UK London sets it's tier by the average case rate