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**Damien** · 29-12-2020, 17:29

The thing is we're about a week away from the Christmas impact being known. This number is people who 'got it' around a week or a week and a half ago. All people who may have been moving around the country and into homes as of last Friday....

Hopefully not but this could be about to get really, really bad.

mrmistoffelees · 29-12-2020, 17:45

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Originally Posted by Damien

The thing is we're about a week away from the Christmas impact being known. This number is people who 'got it' around a week or a week and a half ago. All people who may have been moving around the country and into homes as of last Friday....

Hopefully not but this could be about to get really, really bad.

Also worth considering the following

15k out of the 53k cases are in London
Today’s case numbers will be possibly low due to yesterday being a bank holiday.
The hospitalised figure (iirc 22k) hasn’t been updated since 22nd December

Sephiroth · 29-12-2020, 17:52

Where's all this increase coming from?

We wear masks.
We wash our hands.
We are aware of how this spreads.

Am I right in concluding that it's school children that are causing this?

mrmistoffelees · 29-12-2020, 17:58

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Where's all this increase coming from?

We wear masks.
We wash our hands.
We are aware of how this spreads.

Am I right in concluding that it's school children that are causing this?

London’s increases are for fairly self explanatory reasons
Schools will undoubtedly have some effect
People suffering from weariness in sticking to the rules

Two reasons that I can think of off the top of my head

RichardCoulter · 29-12-2020, 18:33

The evening news said that they're thinking about making the restrictions even tighter because of the rise in cases.

I wonder what that could mean for those in the highest tier? I can't think of much else they can do, maybe a curfew like some other countries have??

mrmistoffelees · 29-12-2020, 18:38

I would suspect a stop to all sports, religious services, all building work etc. Curfew possible

Schools it will appear will be the very last to close

**Chris** · 29-12-2020, 18:48

Schools are already planning for remote learning in Scotland - it was announced at the end of term. The start date has been pushed back to 11 January and all classes will be online until 18 January at the earliest. Staff are to report to school on the original start date to commence planning and provide childcare for key worker and vulnerable children. These children will be able to attend school in person throughout while everyone else is online. Our school has now got everything running through Google Classroom and all the kids have Chromebooks. They’ve been told that unlike the spring lockdown they won’t be given a block of work to complete during the week, but will be expected to be online for each virtual class, delivered according to the usual timetable (much to my kids’ disgust).

Pierre · 29-12-2020, 18:50

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I would suspect a stop to all sports, religious services, all building work etc. Curfew possible

Schools it will appear will be the very last to close

As long as restrictions are proportionate, localised and targeted. ( but they won’t be, based on past performance)

The government are paying the price for not putting London in T3, and then trying to put the genie back in the bottle by introducing T4.

papa smurf · 29-12-2020, 18:51

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I would suspect a stop to all sports, religious services, all building work etc. Curfew possible

Schools it will appear will be the very last to close

As long as we we don't let paranoia set in and go full on nuts.

jfman · 29-12-2020, 18:51

We are paying the price now for not factoring schools into the circuit breakers.

Pierre · 29-12-2020, 18:52

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

As long as we we don't let paranoia set in and go full on nuts.

That ship sailed a long time ago.

mrmistoffelees · 29-12-2020, 18:54

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Originally Posted by Pierre

As long as restrictions are proportionate, localised and targeted. ( but they won’t be, based on past performance)

The government are paying the price for not putting London in T3, and then trying to put the genie back in the bottle by introducing T4.

IMHO I think we are past the point of localised restrictions, and I’d rather we over compensated as opposed to another futile dilly dallying.

Your last sentence is absolutely bang on

papa smurf · 29-12-2020, 18:55

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Originally Posted by Pierre

That ship sailed a long time ago.

Don't i know it

mrmistoffelees · 29-12-2020, 18:58

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

As long as we we don't let paranoia set in and go full on nuts.

We have had hospitals declaring critical incidents due to oxygen shortages. We have patients on trolleys, thirteen hour admission times (which means btw that ambulance crews cannot get back out where they’re needed as they have to legally stay with the patient until handed over)

We’re not far away from what’s happening to hospitals in LA County they’re now turning ambulances away

If the NHS gets overrun we are screwed

Pierre · 29-12-2020, 19:03

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

We have had hospitals declaring critical incidents due to oxygen shortages. We have patients on trolleys, thirteen hour admission times (which means btw that ambulance crews cannot get back out where they’re needed as they have to legally stay with the patient until handed over)

We’re not far away from what’s happening to hospitals in LA County they’re now turning ambulances away

If the NHS gets overrun we are screwed

All due to piss poor planning by the Government/ NHS.

It’s almost as though the NHS is under more pressure in the winter, who could have possibly predicted that the usual winter pressure the NHS experiences would be increased by a winter COVID spike........I mean who?......................