Coronavirus

[downquark1]

Snitchy neighbours?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by downquark1

Snitchy neighbours?

would seem so.
the police said it was an anonymous report.
we still don't know who Garry is though.

Originally Posted by Mick

Other latest Covid Stats: Nearly 21,000 people are now in hospitals across UK, up nearly 3,000 since yesterday, with Covid-19. (Almost at same of peak of first wave).

The today’s total 744 death toll is the highest since 29th April. The second wave is on course to be worst than the first.

It's concerning considering those April numbers are some weeks after the lockdown came in. We're only now seeing some areas having an equivalent lockdown.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

My son is isolating because his partner tested positive neither of them have left the house since, they had the shopping delivered and no one was allowed into or out of the house, earlier they ordered a takeaway and told the delivery chap to put it in the front garden, every thing was fine until 10 min later when there was a knock on the door, it was the police, someone had reported a covid breach, they asked is there a Garry here my son replied we don't know a Garry, the police said he just walked in here with some bags, my son replied we just had a takeaway delivered this is a bit malicious isn't it, the police just turned around and left.

And this is the country we now live in one where nosey curtain twitcher's report you for eating fish and chips.

That's a good response time by the police.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by jfman

That's a good response time by the police.

It's on a par with a motoring offence, if it was a burglary they wouldn't turn up.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by jfman

That's a good response time by the police.

Just a pity they ain't so quick with shoplifters.

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Just a pity they ain't so quick with shoplifters.

They don’t have to be - shops are heavy...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

That's a good response time by the police.

Garry was probably still wearing his tag when delivering.

[jfman]

Next time I get burgled I’m going to report it as a Covid violation, people from multiple households were at my address. Then I’ll explain what happened when they arrive.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by jfman

Next time I get burgled I’m going to report it as a Covid violation, people from multiple households were at my address. Then I’ll explain what happened when they arrive.

That's pretty common.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Garry was probably still wearing his tag when delivering.

That deserves a

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Originally Posted by Hugh

They don’t have to be - shops are heavy...

That too..

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mick

Other latest Covid Stats: Nearly 21,000 people are now in hospitals across UK, up nearly 3,000 since yesterday, with Covid-19. (Almost at same of peak of first wave).

The today’s total 744 death toll is the highest since 29th April. The second wave is on course to be worst than the first.

I understand that there are c. 1,200 hospitals in the UK dealing with CV.

So, with 21,000 people in hospital, that's 17.5 / hospital.

What's the big deal or have I misunderstood something? Even with incidence distribution that might make sum hospitals double or treble that number with corresponding reductions elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I understand that there are c. 1,200 hospitals in the UK dealing with CV.

So, with 21,000 people in hospital, that's 17.5 / hospital.

What's the big deal or have I misunderstood something? Even with incidence distribution that might make sum hospitals double or treble that number with corresponding reductions elsewhere.

The beds are at over 90% capacity, and they don’t have staffing levels to cover this, with staff isolating or off sick.

Also, it’s not distributed evenly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55362681

A safe level for bed occupancy is below 90% but nearly half of NHS trusts report a figure currently higher than this - the largest proportion this season.

The other challenge is that COVID patients often need Critical Care beds, and there are less than 6000 in the U.K., of which 2000 are neo-natal or paediatric.

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publica...e-services-nhs

[nomadking]

It's one thing to have general hospital beds, but beds that can be isolated, with monitoring equipment, and possibly needing ventilators is quite another.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

The beds are at over 90% capacity, and they don’t have staffing levels to cover this, with staff isolating or off sick.

Also, it’s not distributed evenly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55362681



The other challenge is that COVID patients often need Critical Care beds, and there are less than 6000 in the U.K., of which 2000 are neo-natal or paediatric.

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publica...e-services-nhs

In that case, something doesn't add up unless, on average, each hospital has capacity for only c. 20 beds at 90% occupancy.

What have I misunderstood?

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

In that case, something doesn't add up unless, on average, each hospital has capacity for only c. 20 beds at 90% occupancy.

What have I misunderstood?

Nothing - they normally run at 85-90% capacity; there have been lots of programmes on TV about how operations (in ‘normal’ times) are delayed due to lack of beds, so COVID has amplified this.

It’s important to remember not all beds/wards/staff are suitable for all patients - a day ward won’t have the facilities to deal with Critical Care or Post-op recovery; it’s like expecting a car garage to be able to deal with HGV - different equipment and staff skills.

For instance, in February this year (pre-COVID), over 80% of the England’s ICU beds were occupied (we only have just over 4000)

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistic...2020-auY71.pdf