07-11-2020, 11:05
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Originally Posted by denphone
What a load of unmitigated bollocks as usual as one thing l have always done is accept the results of democratic democracy whoever wins....
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I'll take that rant as a yes then shall i.
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07-11-2020, 11:07
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Originally Posted by peanut
It's not his policies for me, it's just him.
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07-11-2020, 11:15
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
I'll take that rant as a yes then shall i.
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Not a rant as l am just saying it as it is.
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07-11-2020, 11:21
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Originally Posted by Mick
Democracy is democracy, but cheating in a democracy isn’t. We had plenty of that by your side, after Brexit vote, not you specifically Den.
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Exactly, so It’s a second order.
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It’s a second order, but it’s meaningless - it only confirms the process that was existing. Nobody was mixing these votes in with the rest of the ballots. They’ve not been counted and even if Trump manages to suppress the vote by getting them thrown out he will lose the state.
It’s good for Trump to get a “victory” in court simply because most people won’t bother to check the detail and then portray it in the manner you just did. Implying that something underhand was going on when it wasn’t.
It’d be like going to court to get a majority defined as 50%+1 of the legally valid votes. Nobody was disputing it.
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07-11-2020, 11:30
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Originally Posted by Damien
The counters better not be taking the weekend off.
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I imagine the troll farms in St Petersburgh won't be either, and are probably on double time, stirring up the divisions in the US by magnifying extreme views.
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07-11-2020, 11:31
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Re: U.S Election 2020
It may elevate any crime into a federal issue meaning the state cannot sweep it under the rug. Dunno for sure.
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07-11-2020, 11:43
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Re: U.S Election 2020
Trump needs to stop being such a snowflake and man up.
Biden's going to have a tough time. Unlike Trump who a inherited asuccessful growing economy and to his credit, didn't mess it up too much, Biden will be inheriting an economy in decline due to Covid 19/Trump's mishandling of Covid 19 (take your pick). He also won't have control of key aspects of government like the senate so his ability to implement his policies will be hindered.
So, if Trump plays his cards right, he will be the bigger man, acknowledge the inevitable and re-focus on success in 2024. The Trump fan base will still be there for him.
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07-11-2020, 12:05
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Originally Posted by Damien
The counters better not be taking the weekend off.
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The problem in some states right now seems to be that their rules permit postal votes that are postmarked on or before 3rd November to be counted as long as they arrive within a certain period, that varies from state to state but could be as much as a week later. So right now they are actually waiting to see how many such votes arrive in the post over the next couple of days. This wouldn’t have been a problem in some years when the result was very clear but the race is so tight in so many places that it’s not possible to call them.
If you want to blame anyone for this, you could blame the US Postal Service, or possibly you could blame whoever has failed to resource the USPS to cope with the entirely predictable demand for its services at a time of pandemic. Now I wonder who it was who refused to sign off on that.
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07-11-2020, 12:47
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Originally Posted by Chris
The problem in some states right now seems to be that their rules permit postal votes that are postmarked on or before 3rd November to be counted as long as they arrive within a certain period, that varies from state to state but could be as much as a week later. So right now they are actually waiting to see how many such votes arrive in the post over the next couple of days. This wouldn’t have been a problem in some years when the result was very clear but the race is so tight in so many places that it’s not possible to call them.
If you want to blame anyone for this, you could blame the US Postal Service, or possibly you could blame whoever has failed to resource the USPS to cope with the entirely predictable demand for its services at a time of pandemic. Now I wonder who it was who refused to sign off on that.
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Or you could blame the Legislatures which wouldn't agree to change state laws to allow pre-counting the mail-in ballots...
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07-11-2020, 13:25
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Or you could blame the Legislatures which wouldn't agree to change state laws to allow pre-counting the mail-in ballots...
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It’s doubtful that would have made much difference. If the tellers have to wait a week for postal ballots to come in, there will come a point where they’re just sitting around waiting to see what’s in the morning mail. The legislation allows for ballots to come in a week after polling day because it can take that long for postmarked mail to get to its destination. That’s a weakness in the processes of the USPS, and acknowledging that, plus the surge in demand, the service asked for more federal funds to help it cope. Trump took some obvious satisfaction in turning them down.
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07-11-2020, 15:12
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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07-11-2020, 15:14
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
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One mans fact check is another mans cover up.
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07-11-2020, 15:34
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
One mans fact check is another mans cover up.
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You’re starting to sound as desperate as the Donald 
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07-11-2020, 15:52
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Re: U.S Election 2020
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Looking at it from the outside it all looks a bit bent to me,i'm not as you put it desperate, just concerned for the future of democracy,if it dies in the usa the rest of us are all screwed.
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07-11-2020, 16:04
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Re: U.S Election 2020
Few more counts expected in the next couple of hours which might convince the networks to call it.
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Trump closes the gap again in Arizona. VERY SUSPICIOUS! Where are they finding these votes all of a sudden! 
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