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Old 07-11-2020, 10:24   #991
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Re: U.S Election 2020

I really don't think Trump has done a bad job until the COVID 19 hit which he has handled in a disgusting way, I do laugh at all the people getting on the I hate Trump bandwagon when they actually haven't seen his polices, pre covid the American economy had improved.
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I really don't think Trump has done a bad job until the COVID 19 hit which he has handled in a disgusting way, I do laugh at all the people getting on the I hate Trump bandwagon when they actually haven't seen his polices, pre covid the American economy had improved.
It's not his policies for me, it's just him.
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Apparently this was being done anyway. It's also unlikely to matter as even without the count Biden will take the state.
No it wasn’t, if you check the order issued it was dated yesterday, a second intervention that is requesting separated ballots arriving late not be counted towards total. May also be subject to a mandatory recount, because Democrats lead by a Dementia patient have systematically cheated en masse by harvesting ballots and having dead people vote, why did they not allow poll watchers in, why did they board up windows to stop the public from seeing the count, and now we have the FBI involved in claims from a postal service worker who claims workers were ordered to backdate late arrived ballots, what a ****ing disgrace Democrats are. If Biden wins, he will be an illegitimate president.
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The thing is there is a big difference between what Trump and the RNC are saying and the legal suits they've so far issued.

I still think it's more political theatre than a substantial push so far.

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No it wasn’t, if you check the order issued it was dated yesterday, a second intervention that is requesting separated ballots arriving late not be counted towards total. May also be subject to a mandatory recount, because Democrats lead by a Dementia patient have systematically cheated en masse by harvesting ballots and having dead people vote, why did they not allow poll watchers in, why did they board up windows to stop the public from seeing the count, and now we have the FBI involved in claims from a postal service worker who claims workers were ordered to backdate late arrived ballots, what a ****ing disgrace Democrats are. If Biden wins, he will be an illegitimate president.
If this is all true they can prove it in court.
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Donald Trump needs to get his big boy trousers on and accept that the people have spoken and do his concession speech like presidents before him..
No, that’s bullshit. Trump has every right to ensure voter integrity, making sure cheating isn’t happening by the back door. there are massive issues here in play, happening by the corrupted Democrats led by dopey gaffe prone Joe.
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It's not his policies for me, it's just him.
Yes but you can't not vote for someone because you don't like them but have the best policies, sure you'd rather have someone you don't like personally and has very good polices than someone you like and has bad policies, I don't like Boris but he had better polices than Corbyn.
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No it wasn’t, if you check the order issued it was dated yesterday, a second intervention that is requesting separated ballots arriving late not be counted towards total. May also be subject to a mandatory recount, because Democrats lead by a Dementia patient have systematically cheated en masse by harvesting ballots and having dead people vote, why did they not allow poll watchers in, why did they board up windows to stop the public from seeing the count, and now we have the FBI involved in claims from a postal service worker who claims workers were ordered to backdate late arrived ballots, what a ****ing disgrace Democrats are. If Biden wins, he will be an illegitimate president.
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This election is looking like the biggest fraud in human history ,it should definitely be scrutinised by the courts to ensure that democracy has not been stolen from the American people.
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The thing is there is a big difference between what Trump and the RNC are saying and the legal suits they've so far issued.

I still think it's more political theatre than a substantial push so far.

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If this is all true they can prove it in court.
It isn’t true and much of it has already been dealt with by the BBC’s fact checking team.

For example on the issue of screening windows, this was done at the request of the tellers sitting close to them who were feeling intimidated and distracted by the baying mob just a couple of feet behind them. Crucially, there were already well over a hundred poll watchers inside the venue at that time, so suggesting that the idea was to prevent the count being monitored is just nuts.

I’ve taken to reading Fox News over the past couple of days (I know ) because it’s useful to see how the most Trump-friendly outlet is seeing this. And I can see absolutely no hint of them making a big deal of the ruling in Pennsylvania.
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No it wasn’t, if you check the order issued it was dated yesterday, a second intervention that is requesting separated ballots arriving late not be counted towards total.
From the 28th October
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WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court refused for a second time Wednesday to change Pennsylvania's election rules at the 11th hour, handing state Republicans a defeat in their effort to reimpose an Election Day deadline for the return of absentee ballots.
The unsigned order means that for now, ballots received by Nov. 6 will be counted. But ballots received after polls close on Tuesday will be segregated from those received earlier, and if the state turns out to be pivotal, the high court could consider the state GOP's challenge after the election.
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No, that’s bullshit. Trump has every right to ensure voter integrity, making sure cheating isn’t happening by the back door. there are massive issues here in play, happening by the corrupted Democrats led by dopey gaffe prone Joe.
Strange how you only espouse the rule of democratic democracy when it suits your political agenda Mick.

Nice to see you always see the Democrats as corrupt but that flimsy statement does not seem to apply to your Republicans.
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The Supreme Court made a fresh order last night, check the date of that order.
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This is a good article on the actual legal battles the Trump campaign are having: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...lection-434360

There is a gap between the rhetoric and the stuff they actually want to test in court. Many of these accusations are specific and therefore they should be able to be proven if true.

I have no doubt there will be some disqualifying ballots. People who voted in the wrong state, people who didn't fill in the form wrong, people who cast a vote despite being a felon and so on. Many of these would be caught by the existing processes via the concept of a 'provisional ballot' but you get these problems in every election. It's completely different from the evidence of systemic and widespread fraud.

So I have no problem with Trump going to the courts on this. If it's not true it's not going to get anywhere and if it did turn out to be true then obviously that needs to be addressed. Also recounts are also perfectly fine and any campaign would request them if they lost by narrow margins.
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The Supreme Court made a fresh order last night, check the date of that order.
Yes, it's a ruling that covers what they were already doing

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Pennsylvania had already issued guidance to counties telling them to segregate their ballots and not include them in the vote count—which it did of its own volition, so that the GOP could not challenge every mail-in ballot if the ballots were combined—and the GOP admitted in their order that they did not have any evidence to suggest any counties were not complying with that guidance.
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Strange how you only espouse the rule of democratic democracy when it suits your political agenda Mick.

Nice to see you always see the Democrats as corrupt but that flimsy statement does not seem to apply to your Republicans.
Absolute rubbish Den. I have no political agenda, and FYI, they are not my Republicans, I just don’t trust the Democrats, given their cheating efforts in 2016 as well when they paid for the Fake Russian dossier. I do have issues of cheating, you want fair elections Den?

All folk want to do here is deny Trump his right to question the absolute claims of cheating that appear to have been going on here.
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Yes but you can't not vote for someone because you don't like them but have the best policies, sure you'd rather have someone you don't like personally and has very good polices than someone you like and has bad policies, I don't like Boris but he had better polices than Corbyn.
I agree, people voted for Trump because he was different and not the usual conventional politician at the time, also he was up against Clinton. The positives was he shook things up but he's ended up a total clown. He was what was needed at the time but now he's just a joke. And now we're seeing his true colours.
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