U.S Election 2020

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

For a start:

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinio...mn/3345059001/

It's general knowledge. Your unbounded 'love affair' with Trump is a great puzzle. I admire several things he's done and achieved, but rigging the election is unforgivable.

That is not evidence, it is an opinion piece. Post facts, not bullshit. Also, drop your stupid attitude and crazy nonsense about love affairs, this is displaying immaturity beyond belief.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

For a start:

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinio...mn/3345059001/

It's general knowledge. Your unbounded 'love affair' with Trump is a great puzzle. I admire several things he's done and achieved, but rigging the election is unforgivable.

To say this is a bit thin on evidence would be an understatement,it's more a bitter rant by a Democrat supporters group.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

To say this is a bit thin on evidence would be an understatement,it's more a bitter rant by a Democrat supporters group.

They also shouldn’t throw stones from glass houses....

Joe Biden used tax code loophole President Obama tried to plug.

[Mr K]

I know Trump is a Saint (way better than Mother Theresa that's for sure), but wonder why he won't publish his Tax returns like every other US President?
Maybe they just don't exist?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mick

That is not evidence, it is an opinion piece. Post facts, not bullshit. Also, drop your stupid attitude and crazy nonsense about love affairs, this is displaying immaturity beyond belief.

Oh dear. You are prone to overstating your unjustifiable fury.

Originally Posted by Mr K

I know Trump is a Saint (way better than Mother Theresa that's for sure), but wonder why he won't publish his Tax returns like every other US President?
Maybe they just don't exist?

Because they more than likely paint a true picture of his wealth. He’s clearly not flat broke, since his presidency he has not taken his $400,000 yearly salary, he donated $1 Million during this relief efforts of Hurricane Harvey, highest ever financial offering from a sitting president.

So he has millions. But is he a billionaire?

Probably not and this is probably what he’s trying to hide.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Oh dear. You are prone to overstating your unjustifiable fury.

Oh dear nothing. Don’t post stupid, immature playground accusations then.

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Because they more than likely paint a true picture of his wealth. He’s clearly not flat broke, since his presidency he has not taken his $400,000 yearly salary, he donated $1 Million during this relief efforts of Hurricane Harvey, highest ever financial offering from a sitting president.

So he has millions. But is he a billionaire?

Probably not and this is probably what he’s trying to hide.

It was said that before he was president he would only talk to the press if they agreed not to ask him about his wealth. He has fostered a brand of vulgar* displays of wealth, IIRC you can pay to tour his suite and he shows off a gold toilet. Of course if you understand how wealthy the elites in New York are you know that Trump is on the lower end.

*Protestant cultures tend to frown on displays of wealth. Even the richest tend to dress the same as a modest businessman.

That being said there may well be accounting tricks going on or maybe not but he may not want the scrutiny, we have all seen how frivolously complaints can gain traction if they are against the "right" people.

Originally Posted by downquark1

It was said that before he was president he would only talk to the press if they agreed not to ask him about his wealth. He has fostered a brand of vulgar* displays of wealth, IIRC you can pay to tour his suite and he shows off a gold toilet. Of course if you understand how wealthy the elites in New York are you know that Trump is on the lower end.

*Protestant cultures tend to frown on displays of wealth. Even the richest tend to dress the same as a modest businessman.

That being said there may well be accounting tricks going on or maybe not but he may not want the scrutiny, we have all seen how frivolously complaints can gain traction if they are against the "right" people.

In one of the 2016 presidential debates, Trump’s bankruptcy record of 6 times, was brought up by Hillary Clinton, he scoffed, that her mates and interests played by same rules, said they were the dumbest us laws that allowed him to bankrupt himself 6 times. And he said it had made him “smart”. He again scoffed at Clinton, when she was a Senator, why had these laws not changed, then claiming to allow her elite friends to exploit same tax loopholes.

You have to agree, being allowed to bankrupt oneself more than once, should raise eyebrows.

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Mick

You have to agree, being allowed to bankrupt oneself more than once, should raise eyebrows.

Did he bankrupt himself or the business?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

In one of the 2016 presidential debates, Trump’s bankruptcy record of 6 times, was brought up by Hillary Clinton, he scoffed, that her mates and interests played by same rules, said they were the dumbest us laws that allowed him to bankrupt himself 6 times. And he said it had made him “smart”. He again scoffed at Clinton, when she was a Senator, why had these laws not changed, then claiming to allow her elite friends to exploit same tax loopholes.

You have to agree, being allowed to bankrupt oneself more than once, should raise eyebrows.

You're being unduly harsh on Trump. He has never been bankrupt himself but six of his companies have.
https://www.thoughtco.com/donald-tru...o%20bankruptcy.

Originally Posted by downquark1

Did he bankrupt himself or the business?

Indeed it was his businesses that got bankrupted.

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Incidentally, it came across my attention last night that the Trump International Hotel in Vancouver, Canada, that opened in 2017, has had to permanently close due to heavy losses and Covid. That said, after further digging, that hotel wasn’t actually run by Trump Organization, merely the company that ran it, used Trump brand on a license based agreement.

That happens a lot with Trump doesn't it? People use his name for products like Trump Streaks or whatever.

Originally Posted by Damien

That happens a lot with Trump doesn't it? People use his name for products like Trump Streaks or whatever.

Correct.

From wiki.

Many developers pay Donald Trump to market their properties and be the public face for their projects. For that reason, Trump does not own many of the buildings that display his name. According to Forbes, this portion of Trump's empire, actually run by his children, has valuation of $562 million.

[papa smurf]

What i have learned this morning is that Donald Trump has a good accountant,as every one in business should

Originally Posted by Mick

Indeed it was his businesses that got bankrupted.

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Incidentally, it came across my attention last night that the Trump International Hotel in Vancouver, Canada, that opened in 2017, has had to permanently close due to heavy losses and Covid. That said, after further digging, that hotel wasn’t actually run by Trump Organization, merely the company that ran it, used Trump brand on a license based agreement.

That’s very common in hotels, especially American owned ones. It’s a franchise arrangement. They pay Trump a wad and in return they get a ready made operations manual, branding and other designs, and permission to use a famous name that attracts more customers.