Election 2019 Exit Poll - Page 10

Mr K · 31-12-2019, 12:58

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Even your ~~Marxist~~ Labour party cannot magically produce hospitals out of thin air no matter how much they claim they'd spend.

Boris can though, it seems. 40 new hospitals promised, 40 new hospitals now expected (does anyone know the locations?) , oh and 50,000 new nurses, which should be interesting given they can't fill 43,000 vacancies at the moment. Maybe the EU will supply them.as overseas aid to deprived countries?

OLD BOY · 31-12-2019, 15:06

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Well I shall expect to see him at the opening of each of the 40 new hospitals he's promised very shortly...

He didn't say 'shortly', as you well know. You will not win any arguments on here if you distort the facts. They will always suss you out!

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Boris can though, it seems. 40 new hospitals promised, 40 new hospitals now expected (does anyone know the locations?) , oh and 50,000 new nurses, which should be interesting given they can't fill 43,000 vacancies at the moment. Maybe the EU will supply them.as overseas aid to deprived countries?

What's wrong with qualified doctors and nurses outside of the EU?

Once again, get your timetable right, Mr K.

Sephiroth · 01-01-2020, 20:38

I'm just grateful that we have a Conservative government that can actually govern.

All Boris needs to do is lead on and deliver his promises.

Mr K · 02-01-2020, 07:10

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I'm just grateful that we have a Conservative government that can actually govern.

All Boris needs to do is lead on and deliver his promises.

That's going to be difficult for an habitual liar, who has been sacked from 3 jobs for telling porky pies.

denphone · 02-01-2020, 08:05

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Originally Posted by Mr K

That's going to be difficult for an habitual liar, who has been sacked from 3 jobs for telling porky pies.

The clear general election result means that the Boris Johnson and Tories now fully own Brexit and all of its consequences.

There will be no parliamentary paralysis or obstructive opposition parties to blame if it goes horribly wrong as the buck stops with them and them only.

Sephiroth · 02-01-2020, 09:16

Fair point, Den.

tweetiepooh · 02-01-2020, 10:00

It will all have been even better with a different result. Always the way.

An asteroid could hit London and it will be those in charges' fault, it could miss and still their fault because it could have.

This is not to say that there isn't consequence to action but some can't win - damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Pierre · 02-01-2020, 10:59

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Originally Posted by Mr K

That's going to be difficult for an habitual liar, who has been sacked from 3 jobs for telling porky pies.

Well we’ll know in five years, as that is how long he has to set his promises in motion.

1andrew1 · 02-01-2020, 16:23

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Originally Posted by denphone

The clear general election result means that the Boris Johnson and Tories now fully own Brexit and all of its consequences.

There will be no parliamentary paralysis or obstructive opposition parties to blame if it goes horribly wrong as the buck stops with them and them only.

I'm sure the EU and some of its member states will be scapegoated during the course of this Parliament. "The buck stops here" is not in Cummings' phrase book.

Sephiroth · 02-01-2020, 17:35

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'm sure the EU and some of its member states will be scapegoated during the course of this Parliament. "The buck stops here" is not in Cummings' phrase book.

Bleat, bleat bleat. So what? They're gonna try to stiff us during trade negotiations and we (UK) are entitled to scapegoat accordingly.

Mr K · 02-01-2020, 18:17

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Bleat, bleat bleat. So what? They're gonna try to stiff us during trade negotiations and we (UK) are entitled to scapegoat accordingly.

I thought our position was strong and the EU would give us all we want.? If so, why do we need to scapegoat anybody?

27 versus 1, work it out. Who is in the the stronger negotiating position? The UK is going to have a very bad hangover from this.

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1andrew1 · 02-01-2020, 19:08

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Bleat, bleat bleat. So what? They're gonna try to stiff us during trade negotiations and we (UK) are entitled to scapegoat accordingly.

The general point is that now the opposition can't be blamed, others will be found instead. We've already seen today's announcement that Northern Rail is losing its franchise early, whereas most of the problems lie with the Government-owned Network Rail. Expect more of this type of thing with the EU, civil servants and outsourcing companies picking up the rap for anything going imperfectly, even if it is actually the Government's fault.

**Hugh** · 02-01-2020, 20:30

But if they won't give us what we want, it's their fault, surely?

nomadking · 02-01-2020, 20:56

The bigger problem is those that keep convincing the EU that we will roll over and agree to whatever they say.

**Hugh** · 02-01-2020, 21:13

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Originally Posted by nomadking

The bigger problem is those that keep convincing the EU that we will roll over and agree to whatever they say.

But surely they will only listen to those in charge, who say the opposite?