General : WWE (no spoilers for 24 hours)

[Russ]

Angle doesn't have anything Vince urgently wants. If he did join WWE at his age he'd more than likely get a part time deal based on the drawing power of his name only, similar to RVD's deal recently.

He's the wrong side of 50 and although he can still have a good match he wouldn't be able to keep it consistent so a full-time return is unlikely and on top of that after coming from TNA's light schedule I can't see him going back to working 250+ days especially after all his surgeries.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ

Angle doesn't have anything Vince urgently wants. If he did join WWE at his age he'd more than likely get a part time deal based on the drawing power of his name only, similar to RVD's deal recently.

He's the wrong side of 50 and although he can still have a good match he wouldn't be able to keep it consistent so a full-time return is unlikely and on top of that after coming from TNA's light schedule I can't see him going back to working 250+ days especially after all his surgeries.

Angle isn't 50, some years of it in fact

[Russ]

Ah fair enough he's 46 - still though, not the age WWE usually likes to bring performers in on full-time contracts especially with a history of injuries.

[Russ]

Anyone else been watching the Table For 3 shows on the network? New Day's was pretty good but the one with Ryback, Ziggler and Bryan was awful. The current one with Owens, Cesaro and Ambrose is good but having a confirmed heel chatting with 2 faces is diluting the business even further IMO. OK we all know behind the scenes faces and heels are usually good mates and there are few if any secrets left in the business but they're destroying what little illusions are left by having faces mix with a heel in public like this. OK granted Owens has loads of fans and is sometimes almost a 'tweener' but by and large he's marketed as a heel. Given his meteoric rise in such a short space of time together with having almost 2 decades of experience means he's obviously got good stories to tell but I feel it would have worked better if the show had been with him and say Wade Barrett (with his history of bar knuckle fighting and rising through the UK scene) or Cody Rhodes (family history) and perhaps Bray Wyatt unless they're saving him for another time.

[Ken W]

Do the wrestlers on WWE get paid per bout or if they win or are they on a salary?

[adzii_nufc]

Salary based I'd assume, maybe some per appearance pay (Lesnar's supposed deal) definitely not per win as outcomes are pre-determined.

[Ken W]

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Salary based I'd assume, maybe some per appearance pay (Lesnar's supposed deal) definitely not per win as outcomes are pre-determined.

What sort of salary do the top ones get and if the outcomes are pre-demined I would say they are fixed.

[MalteseFalcon]

It's not fixed, everyone knows that the company decide who is winning. The only say the fighters get is on the match itself. Salry wise, there were some leaked earlier this year.

Vince McMahon - $1,184,500 for 2014
Triple H - $1,550,000 for VP of live events and talent, plus in ring salary of $2,120,000 for 2014
The Rock - $3,500,000 plus 7% bonus for high merchandise sales
John Cena - $2,750,000 plus 7% high merchandise sales and a share of PPV revenue
Brock Lesnar - $2,000,000 plus 3.25% high merchandise sales, free travel and PPV revenue share
Undertaker - $2,250,000 plus 7% merchandise sales, travel & accomodation, PPV revenue share if a main event

Compare those selected few to the Divas though.

Nikki Bella - $112,500 plus first class travel
AJ - $104,300
Paige - $65,500

The full list of leaked salaries can be found here: http://www.totalsportek.com/money/ww...lers-salaries/

[Ken W]

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

It's not fixed, everyone knows that the company decide who is winning. The only say the fighters get is on the match itself. Salry wise, there were some leaked earlier this year.

Vince McMahon - $1,184,500 for 2014
Triple H - $1,550,000 for VP of live events and talent, plus in ring salary of $2,120,000 for 2014
The Rock - $3,500,000 plus 7% bonus for high merchandise sales
John Cena - $2,750,000 plus 7% high merchandise sales and a share of PPV revenue
Brock Lesnar - $2,000,000 plus 3.25% high merchandise sales, free travel and PPV revenue share
Undertaker - $2,250,000 plus 7% merchandise sales, travel & accomodation, PPV revenue share if a main event

Compare those selected few to the Divas though.

Nikki Bella - $112,500 plus first class travel
AJ - $104,300
Paige - $65,500

The full list of leaked salaries can be found here: http://www.totalsportek.com/money/ww...lers-salaries/

Sounds a lot but when you take into account any pain and injuries they incur which seeing some of the moves the chance of severe injuries is high it is not high.

[adzii_nufc]

I can imagine people like John cena make a fortune away from the ring too.

[Ken W]

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

I can imagine people like John cena make a fortune away from the ring too.

I think that most sports personalities make a future away from their sport,
such as sponsorships etcetera.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

It's not fixed, everyone knows that the company decide who is winning. The only say the fighters get is on the match itself. Salry wise, there were some leaked earlier this year.

Vince McMahon - $1,184,500 for 2014
Triple H - $1,550,000 for VP of live events and talent, plus in ring salary of $2,120,000 for 2014
The Rock - $3,500,000 plus 7% bonus for high merchandise sales
John Cena - $2,750,000 plus 7% high merchandise sales and a share of PPV revenue
Brock Lesnar - $2,000,000 plus 3.25% high merchandise sales, free travel and PPV revenue share
Undertaker - $2,250,000 plus 7% merchandise sales, travel & accomodation, PPV revenue share if a main event

Compare those selected few to the Divas though.

Nikki Bella - $112,500 plus first class travel
AJ - $104,300
Paige - $65,500

The full list of leaked salaries can be found here: http://www.totalsportek.com/money/ww...lers-salaries/

The ppv revenue percentage isn't to be sniffed at, it's no where near what is was what with hogan getting 1.75 million dollars for starcade in 1997 but it's still not to be sniffed at

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Ken W

What sort of salary do the top ones get and if the outcomes are pre-demined I would say they are fixed.

No more or less "fixed" than an episode of Eastenders.

They get a fixed salary, the beginners (in NXT) start at $100,000 PA but they pay their own travel and accomodation which deson't leave them with much. Some get a better percentage of merch sales, others get bonuses based on gate figures.

[adzii_nufc]

It's meant to be fixed though, I don't see what the issue with this is anymore, No bigger con than being told Santa wasn't real, I got over it just as quick. Both superstars are told the outcome, they're also told to end it in a specific way if it's relevant, I.E interference, DQ or whatever they've come up with. The entire match is usually just improvised by the set of performers on the fly and that's that.

Thus you can't have win bonuses or performance bonuses akin to Boxing or MMA, one is a legitimate ranked competition sport whilst WWE is 'sports entertainment'

In fairness to WWE, the soap opera part of it can create absolute megastars, The Rock being the perfect example of this.

Just for reference, sometimes superstars are told the outcome and then Shawn Michaels, Vince Mcmahon and Triple H decide they don't like it, so they put you in a sharpshooter and make you lose anyway

[MalteseFalcon]

But that only happened because Vince was concerned Bret would do an Alundra and dump the (then) WWF title in the bin on a WCW show. Would Bret have dropped the belt to anyone but Shawn? We'll never know. But I think if it had been Taker he was to drop to Bret would have done it.