Sir Keir’s Kerfuffle

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

He said link to the IRA.

And "and a leader who fully supported the IRA."

Originally Posted by Sirius

So as i have already voted by mail i can say this. As long i am able to draw breath i will never vote for a Labour party who allowed there leader to take us into a war based on a lie and a leader who fully supported the IRA. That alone makes them not worth my vote.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

He said

Congratulations ya got me

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Congratulations ya got me

When it comes to the IRA there was no bigger supporter than Comrade Corbyn. Labour knew that and still elected him there leader, thankfully he's a no body now. I was in NI when he was on a parade alongside Gerry Adams. He called IRA terrorists Hero's

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sirius

When it comes to the IRA there was no bigger supporter than Comrade Corbyn. Labour knew that and still elected him there leader, thankfully he's a no body now

You'll get no argument from me.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sirius

When it comes to the IRA there was no bigger supporter than Comrade Corbyn. Labour knew that and still elected him there leader, thankfully he's a no body now. I was in NI when he was on a parade alongside Gerry Adams. He called IRA terrorists Hero's

Do you have a link for his calling IRA terrorists heroes?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Do you have a link for his calling IRA terrorists heroes?

No link,, i was part of the cordon put in place to protect him as he was a British MP. So end of the day you believe it or you don't. It was after the SAS killed 7 terrorists at Loughgall. Have you every wondered why veterans hate his guts so much.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Sirius

When it comes to the IRA there was no bigger supporter than Comrade Corbyn. Labour knew that and still elected him there leader, thankfully he's a nobody now. I was in NI when he was on a parade alongside Gerry Adams. He called IRA terrorists Hero's

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sirius

No link,, i was part of the cordon put in place to protect him as he was a British MP. So end of the day you believe it or you don't. It was after the SAS killed 7 terrorists at Loughgall. Have you every wondered why veterans hate his guts so much.

I would never vote for a Labour Party candidate when Corbyn was in charge of the Party. There's lots of very good reasons that veterans and others hate him, I've never wondered too much about which one people might pick.

But your being part of a cordon to protect Jeremy Corbyn does not mean that he fully supported the IRA. I take an evidenced-based approach on such matters hence my enquiry.

[Sephiroth]

Corbyn comes to mind.

Originally Posted by Sirius

When it comes to the IRA there was no bigger supporter than Comrade Corbyn. Labour knew that and still elected him there leader, thankfully he's a no body now. I was in NI when he was on a parade alongside Gerry Adams. He called IRA terrorists Hero's

I am in agreement with that.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I would never vote for a Labour Party candidate when Corbyn was in charge of the Party. There's lots of very good reasons that veterans and others hate him, I've never wondered too much about which one people might pick.

But your being part of a cordon to protect Jeremy Corbyn does not mean that he fully supported the IRA. I take an evidenced-based approach on such matters hence my enquiry.

This didn’t help his standing with the military

https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...rthern-ireland

Corbyn has given interviews in which he has been challenged to condemn the IRA’s campaign of violence unequivocally – without equating it to other parties involved in the conflict – and has declined to do so.

He was repeatedly asked if he condemned IRA violence specifically in an interview with BBC Radio Ulster in 2015, but answered by saying “I condemn all bombing” and then: “I condemn what was done by the British Army as well as the other sides as well.”

In October 1984, two weeks after an IRA bomb killed five at the Tory Party conference in Brighton, Corbyn invited convicted IRA volunteers Linda Quigley and Gerry MacLochlainn to the House of Commons. It caused uproar at the time.

However seeing as this is a thread about Starmer it’s time to get back on topic.

[heero_yuy]

Quote from The Sun:

The Tories are leading Labour by 17 points in the Hartlepool by-election, a new poll has revealed today.

Boris Johnson is set to add another blue brick to Labour's northern red wall with a victory there.

A poll for Good Morning Britain ahead of Thursday's by-election found the Conservatives have moved well ahead, in what has traditionally been a crucial Labour stronghold.

If Labour loose Hartlepool to the Tories the writing is on the wall for Starmer.

Nah Starmer won't be gone if he loses Hartlepool. The Parliamentary Labour Party won't want to risk an alternative candidate and given he has only been in the post for a year it will seem rather reactionary to ditch him so soon. It will also be considered not entirely unexpected given the only reason they didn't lose it last time is the high amount of the vote for Brexit Party got.

Besides Starmer's personal ratings aren't too bad (especially compared to Corbyn) so whilst there will be pressure for Labour to rethink its approach they'll probably want to keep him as leader.

[Hom3r]

Both my dad and I have already done our postal vote, my dad is 77 and all his life voted Labour.


But no more, he like me have voted Tory.

It's odd for people to stick with Corbyn but leave because of Starmer? Is that because Starmer is less left-wing?