VOD : Linear is old tech - on demand is the future

[jfman]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

The Sky and HBO co production of Chernobyl seems to have done ok for them both , it's currently rating at 9.7 on IMDB.

https://news.sky.com/story/chernobyl...chart-11727888

Fake news

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes, it has, and hat's off to them for that. It would be good if we could actually list these shows that are being shown or coming soon, but sadly, these are isolated examples.

Compared with the choice we had just a few years ago, the situation is becoming increasingly dire, because scheduled channels are simply not able to bid for shows that are now destined for the various streaming services.

I don't understand the last paragraph , a lot of the top rated TV series at the moment on IMDB are shows that have been on linear TV many of them on both sides of the Atlantic.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I don't understand the last paragraph , a lot of the top rated TV series at the moment on IMDB are shows that have been on linear TV many of them on both sides of the Atlantic.

Don't worry MM as OB will always be his usual negative self about Linear TV and yet still he continues to watch the normal linear TV channels despite all his hot air and repetitive threats that he would quit being a PTV customer and just subscribe to the streaming channels instead.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I don't understand the last paragraph , a lot of the top rated TV series at the moment on IMDB are shows that have been on linear TV many of them on both sides of the Atlantic.

I don't disagree, but we are talking about new shows coming through that are reserved for exclusive viewing on new streaming sites.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I don't disagree, but we are talking about new shows coming through that are reserved for exclusive viewing on new streaming sites.

Such as?

Where do they score on IMDB?

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by jfman

Such as?

Where do they score on IMDB?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultas.../#1006d660464e

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I don't disagree, but we are talking about new shows coming through that are reserved for exclusive viewing on new streaming sites.

Production companies sell to whoever buys into their ideas so not sure what you are on about.

The likes of Liberty Global , Sky , Comcast , Disney , ITV etc own different production companies so why would they cut content off from themselves.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Production companies sell to whoever buys into their ideas so not sure what you are on about.

The likes of Liberty Global , Sky , Comcast , Disney , ITV etc own different production companies so why would they cut content off from themselves.

Isn't it obvious? The Disney + content issue has been in the news recently and discussed on this very forum. Can you really not see the way this is going?

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Isn't it obvious? The Disney + content issue has been in the news recently and discussed on this very forum. Can you really not see the way this is going?

What does Disney + have to do with linear channels not getting good shows ?

Even if the likes of Disney eventually make their content exclusive the likes of Sky still has NBC and its own production companies with which to redirect it's money.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

What does Disney + have to do with linear channels not getting good shows ?

Even if the likes of Disney eventually make their content exclusive the likes of Sky still has NBC and its own production companies with which to redirect it's money.

So the short answer to Old Boy’s question is no, it’s not obvious. Linear TV channels and pay-tv companies that have a mix of linear and streaming content continue to make money. Production companies want to sell content and actors/writers/directors would prefer to be in work than out of work.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

What does Disney + have to do with linear channels not getting good shows ?

Even if the likes of Disney eventually make their content exclusive the likes of Sky still has NBC and its own production companies with which to redirect it's money.

So, you are of the view that Sky will be able to continue with their Sky Disney Channel when Disney+ launches over here next year? Dream on. They are already getting stuff taken off Netflix.

The same will happen with other streaming services - most if not all of their new shows will go straight to the new service and the pay tv companies won't get a look in.

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Originally Posted by jfman

So the short answer to Old Boy’s question is no, it’s not obvious. Linear TV channels and pay-tv companies that have a mix of linear and streaming content continue to make money. Production companies want to sell content and actors/writers/directors would prefer to be in work than out of work.

Missed the point completely. The new stuff as well as back catalogues will migrate to the new SVOD services. The pay tv companies will be thrown a few scraps - mainly archive material, in all probability.

The process will start with Disney + next year.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So, you are of the view that Sky will be able to continue with their Sky Disney Channel when Disney+ launches over here next year? Dream on. They are already getting stuff taken off Netflix.

The same will happen with other streaming services - most if not all of their new shows will go straight to the new service and the pay tv companies won't get a look in.

Another wild statement without any substantiated proof at all but then again you do have form of that OB.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Missed the point completely. The new stuff as well as back catalogues will migrate to the new SVOD services. The pay tv companies will be thrown a few scraps - mainly archive material, in all probability.

The process will start with Disney + next year.

OB why do you make such wild statements that all the good content is going to go over to the streaming companies because it quite simply has not happened and will not happen but of course because you have backed yourself into a corner with many of your unsubstantiated statements before so its better the devil you know then the devil you don't know in making these wild claims.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

Another wild statement without any substantiated proof at all but then again you do have form of that OB.

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OB why do you make such wild statements that all the good content is going to go over to the streaming companies because it quite simply has not happened and will not happen but of course because you have backed yourself into a corner with many of your unsubstantiated statements before so its better the devil you know then the devil you don't know in making these wild claims.

I am pointing it out because that's what the media themselves are saying. It also explains why I am finding far fewer dramas to record these days. I'm surprised that you have not read about this, Den. It's not just me saying this.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Missed the point completely. The new stuff as well as back catalogues will migrate to the new SVOD services. The pay tv companies will be thrown a few scraps - mainly archive material, in all probability.

The process will start with Disney + next year.

More speculation based on virtually nothing. Disney are a small fraction of a huge vibrant global marketplace.

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So, you are of the view that Sky will be able to continue with their Sky Disney Channel when Disney+ launches over here next year? Dream on. They are already getting stuff taken off Netflix.

I gave the the example of ESPN a week or so ago, as a very clear example.

People will not pay for both a linear ESPN service and streamer. One will live, the other will not. Place your bets which will be which.

BUt Sky's films channels are another good example. Sky now has the enormous Universal film library to feed on, but if the other studios withdraw their content from Sky, that not only puts the film channels at risk, but the entire linear tv satellite service.