Corbyn's kerfuffle

[heero_yuy]

Intelligence services posing as Jeremy Corbyn supporters could be behind the abuse and intimidation of MPs on social media in an attempt to “stir up trouble” for the Labour leader, the Unite boss Len McCluskey has suggested.

In an interview with the Guardian, the general secretary of the UK’s largest trade union and one of Corbyn’s strongest supporters said he thought “dark practices” would ultimately be uncovered by the 30-year rule, under which classified documents are released into the public domain three decades after being written.

Asked if he believed the online abuse of Corbyn’s critics was posted by people trying to discredit his supporters, McCluskey said: “Of course, of course. Do people believe for one second that the security forces are not involved in dark practices?

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Better get the tin foil helmet there Len.

[Osem]

Corbyn's nutters don't need the security services or anyone else to stir up trouble for them. They're doing a terrific job of that all on their own and Labour is effectively being run by rent a mob.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Linky

Better get the tin foil helmet there Len.

Well, the Security Services were reknowned for recruiting upper-class chaps from Oxbridge...

Labour Director of Strategy and Communications

Shadow Chancellor's Chief of Staff

I think we all have to say a big thank you to Teresa May because at the moment she is the only politician looking anything like competent

[Osem]

I heard Dave Nellist singing Corbyn's praises the other day - my word the dinosaur lefty nutters are crawling out of the woodwork...

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by martyh

I think we all have to say a big thank you to Teresa May because at the moment she is the only politician looking anything like competent

Crazy thing is she's proving it by not doing much. She literally won the leadership by sitting back and waiting for her opponents to trip themselves up and eliminate themselves from selection. It's not so much she is competent but everyone else is fantastically incompetent.

[Ignitionnet]

ICM poll - pair better able to manage the economy:
May & Hammond: 53%
Corbyn & McDonnell: 15%

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Excuse the Fail link but I find this entirely believable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...rbyn-Myth.html

[Ignitionnet]

After Opinium last night, all-pollster av now reads #Conservative lead of 6.2% - 37% to 30.8%. This time last Parl, Lab *led* by 6.2%.

So @UKLabour are now a net 12.4% underwater on EdM, implying a swing of 6.2% to Cons. Lab would lose 50 seats - Con maj 112

From Glen O'Hara, @gsoh31 on Twitter.

[Ignitionnet]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7156381.html

The poll, which comes just 13 days into Theresa May’s premiership and could revive speculation of an early general election, shows that Labour’s share of the vote continues to drop steeply. The party is now down to 27 per cent – a figure not seen in ICM polling since October 2009.

Research conducted between July 22 and 24 put the Tories up four points on 43 per cent of the vote. Just last week a YouGov poll gave the Tories and 11-point lead over Labour.

To put into context how bad this would be such well known marginals as Ealing Central and Acton, Brentford and Isleworth, Halifax and Ilford North would be lost by Labour.

Damn electorate, they stubbornly refuse to realise that Jeremy is electable and has a mandate. Best deselect the electorate and get a new one.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I had an email today from Labour HQ, that they believe that Corbyn so far, from the people have 'Bought' into the Party, that Corbyn will win, as so far there have been approx. 80% receipts from 'new' members from the Corbyn camp.

Who have been stupid enough to Join the Party And a certain Ann Black, she and others have paid 25 quid to the Corbyn camp. Say's he will win

But, there is still a Court case going on, which say it could be illegal

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7156381.html



To put into context how bad this would be such well known marginals as Ealing Central and Acton, Brentford and Isleworth, Halifax and Ilford North would be lost by Labour.

Damn electorate, they stubbornly refuse to realise that Jeremy is electable and has a mandate. Best deselect the electorate and get a new one.

I think it's another chapter in the increasing fracturing of the Western world. It's not inconceivable that in about a year from now we're buffered by Trump's America on one side and Le Pen's France on the other. :arm:

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think it's another chapter in the increasing fracturing of the Western world. It's not inconceivable that in about a year from now we're buffered by Trump's America on one side and Le Pen's France on the other. :arm:

Hopefully the fracturing of Westminster will see an end to first past the post rather than a lurch to the extreme right or left

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think it's another chapter in the increasing fracturing of the Western world. It's not inconceivable that in about a year from now we're buffered by Trump's America on one side and Le Pen's France on the other. :arm:

You seem to have lost some of the optimism you used to have when we'd frequently disagree about the future.

[heero_yuy]

I'm curious as to why a court would have jurisdiction over a party selection issue when no law of the land is being breached?

It's possible that the party rule book stipulates that the courts can be used for binding arbitration in the event of a dispute.