Corbyn's kerfuffle - Page 17

Taf · 30-04-2016, 12:26

I think Livingstone has done a really good job of moving the news away from Corbyn's charitable donations and visits to anti-semite terrorists.

rhyds · 30-04-2016, 12:32

I seriously expect the Tories to offer him a peerage. They must have been praying for something like this to happen.

nomadking · 30-04-2016, 12:42

If Labour think is bad, if they decide to start looking at local councillors, they will see the true scale of things.

techguyone · 30-04-2016, 13:14

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You need to get out more...

Maybe you should, I'm not saying anything I haven't experienced first hand.

Ramrod · 30-04-2016, 13:17

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Originally Posted by Taf

I think Livingstone has done a really good job of moving the news away from Corbyn's charitable donations and visits to anti-semite terrorists.

In other news:
Corbyn-Backed Charity Donates Funds to Palestinian ‘Festival of Hate’

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A British pro-Palestinian charity supported by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has co-funded a festival in the Gaza strip this week which featured young children staging a play glorifying terrorism against Jews.

Business as usual

**Hugh** · 30-04-2016, 13:27

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Originally Posted by techguyone

I'm no fan of Hitler or indeed Ken, but this would seem to indicate that what he said had some truth to it.

http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2016/0...id-support-it/

Assuming it's accurate obviously, I do wish the sheeple of the UK would stop trying so hard to be professionally outraged at the slightest thing.

Actually, Ken said "Hitler's policy in 1932 was to move Jews to Israel" - in 1932, Hitler was against it; he changed his mind in 1937-39 (and afterwards, he really changed his mind).

From wiki

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Hitler's own support of the Haavara Agreement was unclear and varied throughout the 1930s. Initially, Hitler criticized the agreement, but reversed his opinion and supported it in the period 1937-1939.

Osem · 30-04-2016, 13:28

BBC TV news opens with Red Ken defending his crass remarks to a media scrum.

"Great work Ken!

Thanks again.

Dave."

Mr K · 30-04-2016, 14:23

Seems certain areas of the Labour party are grasping at anything to try and get at Corbyn. The fact he suspended KL the same day isn't enough. The tv pictures of John Mann attacking KL seemed very orchestrated with the TV cameras conveniently there. They've never accepted the overwhelming result of the leadership election - however that's democracy, even if it means your own chances of power are less. One member, one vote, and that includes MPs.

nomadking · 30-04-2016, 15:14

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Actually, Ken said "Hitler's policy in 1932 was to move Jews to Israel" - in 1932, Hitler was against it; he changed his mind in 1937-39 (and afterwards, he really changed his mind).

From wiki

Keeping them in camps became no longer an option with the war going badly in the East. He just didn't want them in Germany.

**Hugh** · 30-04-2016, 16:17

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Keeping them in camps became no longer an option with the war going badly in the East. He just didn't want them in Germany.

Erm, that was around 44-45...

nomadking · 30-04-2016, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Erm, that was around 44-45...

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The Axis advance halted in 1942 when Japan lost the critical Battle of Midway, near Hawaii, and Germany was defeated in North Africa and then, decisively, at Stalingrad in the Soviet Union. In 1943, with a series of German defeats on the Eastern Front, the Allied invasion of Sicily and the Allied invasion of Italy which brought about Italian surrender, and Allied victories in the Pacific, the Axis lost the initiative and undertook strategic retreat on all fronts.

You were saying? According to a survivor, Belsen was just a concentration camp until 1943.

**Hugh** · 30-04-2016, 16:43

We were talking about sending Jews to Palestine between 1932 - 1939, not about the Final Solution...

nomadking · 30-04-2016, 16:59

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Originally Posted by Hugh

We were talking about sending Jews to Palestine between 1932 - 1939, not about the Final Solution...

You said "(and afterwards, he really changed his mind)". It wasn't so much a change of mind, but a change of circumstances.

TheDaddy · 30-04-2016, 19:05

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Originally Posted by nomadking

You said "(and afterwards, he really changed his mind)". It wasn't so much a change of mind, but a change of circumstances.

Or a change of destination. I seem to remember something about Madagascar pre final solution

**Hugh** · 30-04-2016, 19:58

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Originally Posted by nomadking

You said "(and afterwards, he really changed his mind)". It wasn't so much a change of mind, but a change of circumstances.

I have to admit, I've never heard the planned killing of 6 million people (along with 6 million gay people, priests, gypsies, people with mental or physical disabilities, communists, trade unionists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, anarchists, Poles and other Slavic peoples, and resistance fighters) described as 'a change of circumstances' before...