Home News Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Brexit

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > General Discussion > Current Affairs

Brexit
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-04-2019, 12:40   #1411
pip08456
Sad Doig Fan!
 
pip08456's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Barry South Wales
Age: 63
Services: Now back with VM for BB & phone. 50Mb service.
Posts: 8,222
pip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronze
pip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronze
Re: Brexit

Oh dear,


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

The World Trade Organization finds that the European Union subsidies to Airbus has adversely impacted the United States, which will now put Tariffs on $11 Billion of EU products! The EU has taken advantage of the U.S. on trade for many years. It will soon stop!
pip08456 is offline  
Advertisement
Old 09-04-2019, 12:53   #1412
Hugh
Hic Sunt Dracones
Cable Forum Team
 
Hugh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 62
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 33,138
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Re: Brexit

And the US Government don’t support/subsidise US plane makers with their military procurement...

In 2016, the US Government spent nearly $100 billion with US aviation companies - Lockheed Martin ($36.2 billion), Boeing ($24.3 billion), Raytheon ($12.8 billion), General Dynamics ($12.7 billion), and Northrop Grumman ($10.7 billion).

And it’s gone up since then.
__________________
If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.

Last edited by Hugh; 09-04-2019 at 13:01.
Hugh is offline  
Old 09-04-2019, 13:44   #1413
1andrew1
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 6,486
1andrew1 has a bronzed appeal1andrew1 has a bronzed appeal
1andrew1 has a bronzed appeal1andrew1 has a bronzed appeal1andrew1 has a bronzed appeal1andrew1 has a bronzed appeal1andrew1 has a bronzed appeal1andrew1 has a bronzed appeal
Re: Brexit

Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 View Post
Oh dear,


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

The World Trade Organization finds that the European Union subsidies to Airbus has adversely impacted the United States, which will now put Tariffs on $11 Billion of EU products! The EU has taken advantage of the U.S. on trade for many years. It will soon stop!
Not too sure this is too Brexit-related.
1andrew1 is offline  
Old 09-04-2019, 13:53   #1414
jfman
Architect of Ideas
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,440
jfman has reached the bronze age
jfman has reached the bronze age
Re: Brexit

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
Not too sure this is too Brexit-related.
Thats our big glorious trade deal right there. Slapping $11bn of tariffs on the EU because Boeings flagship plane is a pup.
jfman is offline  
Old 09-04-2019, 13:55   #1415
nomadking
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Northampton
Services: Virgin Media TV&BB 200Mb Tivo STB
Posts: 4,916
nomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appeal
nomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appeal
Re: Brexit

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
Not too sure this is too Brexit-related.
Depends on how it's worded. In the tariffs are against the EU as an entity, then after Brexit(not that that's going to happen, is it?), then the tariffs would not apply to the UK. If the UK enters into some sort of customs union(eg the withdrawal agreement) with the EU, then they might still apply.
nomadking is offline  
Old 09-04-2019, 13:57   #1416
jfman
Architect of Ideas
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,440
jfman has reached the bronze age
jfman has reached the bronze age
Re: Brexit

Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
Depends on how it's worded. In the tariffs are against the EU as an entity, then after Brexit(not that that's going to happen, is it?), then the tariffs would not apply to the UK. If the UK enters into some sort of customs union(eg the withdrawal agreement) with the EU, then they might still apply.
And in the absence of a trade deal with the USA how do said tariffs compare with WTO rules? Id imagine the same so we will be no better/worse off.
jfman is offline  
Old 09-04-2019, 14:06   #1417
nomadking
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Northampton
Services: Virgin Media TV&BB 200Mb Tivo STB
Posts: 4,916
nomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appeal
nomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appeal
Re: Brexit

Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman View Post
And in the absence of a trade deal with the USA how do said tariffs compare with WTO rules? Id imagine the same so we will be no better/worse off.
The possible US imposed tariffs will be additional to any existing ones, so with Brexit we might avoid those additional tariffs. The issue raised was whether this story is Brexit related.


It just highlights how tethered to the EU we would be with a customs union.
nomadking is offline  
Old 09-04-2019, 14:09   #1418
pip08456
Sad Doig Fan!
 
pip08456's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Barry South Wales
Age: 63
Services: Now back with VM for BB & phone. 50Mb service.
Posts: 8,222
pip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronze
pip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronzepip08456 is cast in bronze
Re: Brexit

Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
The possible US imposed tariffs will be additional to any existing ones, so with Brexit we might avoid those additional tariffs. The issue raised was whether this story is Brexit related.


It just highlights how tethered to the EU we would be with a customs union.
Thanks for explaing to them how it was Brexit related. They would've seen it straight away but for those rose tinted glasses.
pip08456 is offline  
Old 09-04-2019, 14:55   #1419
Carth
cf.geek
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: At the Leaving door
Posts: 956
Carth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful one
Re: Brexit

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 View Post


royal assent given now in law

what are 'divers acts' then?
__________________
The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it - 'T. Pratchett'
Carth is offline  
Old 09-04-2019, 15:05   #1420
nomadking
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Northampton
Services: Virgin Media TV&BB 200Mb Tivo STB
Posts: 4,916
nomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appeal
nomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appeal
Re: Brexit

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth View Post
what are 'divers acts' then?
Link

Quote:
Definition of divers (Entry 2 of 2)
: an indefinite number more than one

with divers of the leaves torn and stitched across— Charles Dickens
nomadking is offline  
Old 09-04-2019, 15:26   #1421
Carth
cf.geek
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: At the Leaving door
Posts: 956
Carth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful oneCarth is the helpful one
Re: Brexit

Cheers nomadking, I doubted it was a simple spelling error (diverse), and curiosity got the better of me regarding 'old school' Queens English
__________________
The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it - 'T. Pratchett'
Carth is offline  
Old 09-04-2019, 15:52   #1422
jfman
Architect of Ideas
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,440
jfman has reached the bronze age
jfman has reached the bronze age
Re: Brexit

Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
The possible US imposed tariffs will be additional to any existing ones, so with Brexit we might avoid those additional tariffs. The issue raised was whether this story is Brexit related.

It just highlights how tethered to the EU we would be with a customs union.
Under WTO preferred country rules can the USA apply such a tariff only to the EU? Surely if we traded on WTO terms with the USA theyd still apply to us, wed just be outside the EU.
jfman is offline  
Old 09-04-2019, 15:52   #1423
Hugh
Hic Sunt Dracones
Cable Forum Team
 
Hugh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 62
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 33,138
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Re: Brexit

Apparently the Daily Mail readers comments about the Queen signing the Bill are "interesting", with some calling her a traitor, and others stating that she and her family need to leave the country.
__________________
If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.

Last edited by Hugh; 09-04-2019 at 18:35.
Hugh is offline  
Old 09-04-2019, 15:57   #1424
nomadking
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Northampton
Services: Virgin Media TV&BB 200Mb Tivo STB
Posts: 4,916
nomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appeal
nomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appealnomadking has a bronzed appeal
Re: Brexit

Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman View Post
Under WTO preferred country rules can the USA apply such a tariff only to the EU? Surely if we traded on WTO terms with the USA theyd still apply to us, wed just be outside the EU.
The possible new tariffs are under WTO rules.
Quote:
The US is considering imposing tariffs on about $11bn (8.4bn) worth of goods from the European Union in response to subsidies that support Airbus.The World Trade Organization (WTO) has found that the subsidies have an adverse impact on the US.
nomadking is offline  
Old 09-04-2019, 16:15   #1425
jfman
Architect of Ideas
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,440
jfman has reached the bronze age
jfman has reached the bronze age
Re: Brexit

Its catching:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...bour-live-news

1.53 from Mark Francois

If you now try to hold on to us against our will, you will be facing Perfidious Albion on speed. It would therefore be much better for all our sakes if we were to pursue our separate destinies, in a spirit of mutual respect.
jfman is offline  
Closed Thread


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:37.


Server: xenon.zmnt.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.