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Old 21-05-2020, 18:44   #3511
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Re: Coronavirus

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If it works the majority of the credit would go to those who originally suggested it would help. Trump would certainly be able to say he was there early on though

That said it's one of many treatments being tested and people should be wary of medical advice from the guy who wondered if we could look into injecting bleach.
Fake news!

It wasn’t bleach, it was disinfectant...
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Old 21-05-2020, 19:14   #3512
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You think he’ll get any credit if it works? No chance.
Fox News would probably set up a daily programme - Donald Saves the World - if such treatment is ever shown to be beneficial.
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Old 21-05-2020, 22:12   #3513
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Re: Coronavirus

I'm wondering if he has shares in the company..
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Old 21-05-2020, 22:21   #3514
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I'm wondering if he has shares in the company..
Apparently he does own shares.
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Old 22-05-2020, 07:04   #3515
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Re: Coronavirus

Trump does own shares, but his overall total shares, is of little significance. He owns about $1,500 worth, the French company, (so not even American) Sonafi which makes Hydroxychloroquine, stock value went up the day after Trump promoted its use to treat Covid-19, so Trump stood to pocket $260 from his promotion of it. Trump’s net worth is documented to be around $3,000,000,000. He isn’t violating federal conflict of interest laws.

As per usual, it’s jump on the, “Trump man bad”, again.
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Old 22-05-2020, 07:21   #3516
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Re: Coronavirus

Come on Mick l am even sure you must have been shocked by Donald's claim that Coronavirus might be treated by injecting disinfectant into the body.

Its not about being anti Trump as even the most unbiased observer's have thought some of his comments are way out.
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Old 22-05-2020, 09:21   #3517
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Re: Coronavirus

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Trump does own shares, but his overall total shares, is of little significance. He owns about $1,500 worth, the French company, (so not even American) Sonafi which makes Hydroxychloroquine, stock value went up the day after Trump promoted its use to treat Covid-19, so Trump stood to pocket $260 from his promotion of it. Trump’s net worth is documented to be around $3,000,000,000. He isn’t violating federal conflict of interest laws.

As per usual, it’s jump on the, “Trump man bad”, again.
I don't think he's bad, just not very bright to put it politely.
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Old 22-05-2020, 10:12   #3518
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Come on Mick l am even sure you must have been shocked by Donald's claim that Coronavirus might be treated by injecting disinfectant into the body.

Its not about being anti Trump as even the most unbiased observer's have thought some of his comments are way out.
He didn’t “claim” anything, he was “asking” what was possible.

Don’t get me wrong it sounds like the ramblings of a lunatic. But the accusations that He claimed, instructed, advocated etc etc.

Are wrong.


Here is the transcript of what he actually said

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"So I asked Bill a question some of you are thinking of if you're into that world, which I find to be pretty interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're gonna test that too, sounds interesting. And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that. So you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it goes in one minute, that's pretty powerful."
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Old 22-05-2020, 10:23   #3519
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As per usual, it’s jump on the, “Trump man bad”, again.
He does make it very easy to jump on though. He positively does.
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Old 22-05-2020, 11:19   #3520
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Re: Coronavirus

And a device that can be slid down to the lungs to administer UV light does already exist.

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... novel treatment developed by scientists at Cedars-Sinai that administers ultraviolet light inside the bodies of patients inflicted with respiratory infections. The research team at Cedars-Sinai is currently working with the FDA to explore an expedited regulatory process to use the treatment as a possible medical intervention for those suffering from the Wuhan coronavirus.
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Old 22-05-2020, 11:53   #3521
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Re: Coronavirus

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Trump does own shares, but his overall total shares, is of little significance. He owns about $1,500 worth, the French company, (so not even American) Sonafi which makes Hydroxychloroquine, stock value went up the day after Trump promoted its use to treat Covid-19, so Trump stood to pocket $260 from his promotion of it. Trump’s net worth is documented to be around $3,000,000,000. He isn’t violating federal conflict of interest laws.

As per usual, it’s jump on the, “Trump man bad”, again.
Just to add to this:
- Trump's shares are held indirectly - his family trusts invest in what the US calls mutual funds similar to what we would call unit trusts.
- His mutual funds hold shares in many large companies, not just Sanofi. That's the nature of these types of investments. I'm sure his peers invest in similar ways too though perhaps with smaller sums.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tr...-99-2020-04-07
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Re: Coronavirus

To point out, Hydroxychloroquine is an old and relatively cheap drug. If you were purely wanting to profiteer you would choose something newer and more costly.
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Old 22-05-2020, 12:16   #3523
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To point out, Hydroxychloroquine is an old and relatively cheap drug. If you were purely wanting to profiteer you would choose something newer and more costly.
Something like HydroxyTrumpochloroquine
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Anyone who is taking their medical advice off the President's ramblings in a press conference is probably better out of the gene pool anyway.
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Anyone who is taking their medical advice off the President's ramblings in a press conference is probably better out of the gene pool anyway.
So - no knighthood for you, then! (See Capt. Tom thread).
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