28-10-2016, 19:22
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Remoaner
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by Mick
True and whichever way you look at it, HC now has a big headache because if she does still win, she has a substantial FBI investigation being carried in to her New Presidency, which if they do find she emailed classified emails through her private server, it's potentially game over and almost certainly result in her Impeachment.
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We need more information on what this is. However even if it turns out not to be as drastic as it initially it appears this is terrible for Clinton.
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28-10-2016, 19:32
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Re: US Election 2016
Good. Between the Combetta farce and Clinton, the whole FBI investigation was a farce, immunity deals that were a joke that then crippled any further chance of a proper investigation when revealed Paul Combetta attempted to tamper with emails whilst under federal investigation, a federal offence applying to both Combetta and the person ordering it, suspected to be Clinton. Despite reopening the investigation, unless they reverse Combetta's immunity they cannot pursue that avenue. So this new lead has to be be really massive otherwise it'll wither away.
Also don't put it past the FBI to botch it again.
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28-10-2016, 19:33
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by denphone
The big Mo is only moving in one direction from what l have heard and its bad news for Donald.
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I doubted this before the news broke an hour ago, I strongly doubt it even more now.
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28-10-2016, 19:47
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Re: US Election 2016
The FBI are going to have to come out and give more information here.
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28-10-2016, 19:49
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Re: US Election 2016
I read that it was a Republican who advised the FBI of these emails found on a server in the basement of her home after a search
This whole basis is making me sick. This should have been dealt with well before the elections started. Or even when she was at the White House before.
It wouldn't surprise me if that crook Trump, has 'bought' someone to to this this as he knows the election is slipping away from him.
It seems strange to me that this has come up with only nine days to go. Someone is putting a major stone in the works here
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28-10-2016, 20:44
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Remoaner
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Re: US Election 2016
MSNBC:
- The case was never closed. So it's technically not been reopened.
- The e-mails were found on another device (not withheld) during another investigation.
- The FBI doesn't know if it's relevant.
- Not Wikileaks or the Russian hack of the DNC
- The E-Mails are not from Clinton.
- Won't be resolved in 11 days.
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/792076790676283392
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BREAKING: US official: Newly discovered emails related to Clinton investigation did not come from her private server.
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This doesn't tell us much if the FBI still think it's connected.
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https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/statu...79872311132160
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Breaking: new emails NOT from Hillary Clinton, found on electronic device uncovered in separate investigation
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Again. This doesn't mean it's a nothing story. Depending on the circumstances. However the FBI really need to come out and clear a few things up.
We can't have Clinton facing criminal charges which only come to light after the election.
We also can't have this revealed to be nothing only after the election.
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Haha! What a pathetic election this is:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/us...imes&smtyp=cur
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American law enforcement officials said Friday that the new emails uncovered in the closed investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server were discovered after the F.B.I. seized electronic devices belonging to Huma Abedin and her husband, Anthony Weiner.
The F.B.I. is investigating illicit text messages that Mr. Weiner sent to a 15-year-old girl in North Carolina. The bureau told Congress on Friday that it had uncovered new emails related to the Clinton case — one federal official said they numbered in the thousands — potentially reigniting an issue that has weighed on the presidential campaign and offering a lifeline to Donald J. Trump less than two weeks before the election.
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Mental election.
Just some context. Weiner is under investigation for sexting random women. He sent pictures of him in his underwear to these women, then had to resign. He then ran for Mayor of New York and it emerged he had done it since. Then it emerged he had done whilst running for Mayor of New York so he lost that election. Then he did it again.
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The FBI might be facing more questions than Clinton if this is true:
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Details of FBI: They found 3 emails that "might" be relevant to the case. None of them were withheld by Clinton.
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https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/s...75393515724800
Last edited by Damien; 28-10-2016 at 20:40.
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28-10-2016, 20:46
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#547
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by Damien
The FBI are going to have to come out and give more information here.
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Well, I cannot see how they can, it is a criminal investigation. Although all kinds of stuff is coming out at the moment. But the FBI director would not say 'found emails pertinent to the investigation.'
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28-10-2016, 20:49
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by Mick
Well, I cannot see how they can, it is a criminal investigation. Although all kinds of stuff is coming out at the moment. But the FBI director would not say 'found emails pertinent to the investigation.'
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It's difficult because it's an on-going investigation but 11 days before an election? They have a duty to the public. The FBI is leaking badly at the moment. In a few hours we know so much already.
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28-10-2016, 20:54
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
*I read that it was a Republican who advised the FBI of these emails found on a server in the basement of her home after a search
This whole basis is making me sick. This should have been dealt with well before the elections started. Or even when she was at the White House before.
** It wouldn't surprise me if that crook Trump, has 'bought' someone to to this this as he knows the election is slipping away from him.
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* This is why you should not read all/watch all and take in all that you do and take it as gospel, which a problem you really do have Arthur.
** He doesn't know if it's slipping away from him, nobody does, Election day has not occurred yet. Infact, he has come out in last day or so and said he thinks he's winning, although that could just mean Florida. But winning Florida is key State to winning the Election.
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28-10-2016, 20:56
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Re: US Election 2016
This is now confusing me. IF, the emails are NOT directly involving HC. Why is it going to effect her.
And even if it is on her server. Surely this is not a problem is it.
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28-10-2016, 21:05
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
This is now confusing me. IF, the emails are NOT directly involving HC. Why is it going to effect her.
And even if it is on her server. Surely this is not a problem is it.
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Presumably they found e-mails that were sent to her server or reference her server and now they need to see if they are classified or not. I suspect not if they're from the phones of Weiner though, why would he or she have access to state level classified info?
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28-10-2016, 21:19
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#552
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by Damien
Presumably they found e-mails that were sent to her server or reference her server and now they need to see if they are classified or not. I suspect not if they're from the phones of Weiner though, why would he or she have access to state level classified info?
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Could she have emailed top secret information via her aid perhaps and then her aide has then emailed it on through her less than secure device? That's still a no no, if it is the case.
HC campaign team are seething.
Obama is apparently on his way to campaign in Florida, are they scared she will lose that vital state ?
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28-10-2016, 21:24
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by Mick
Could she have emailed top secret information via her aid perhaps and then her aide has then emailed it on through her less than secure device? That's still a no no, if it is the case.
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No idea. Fox News are saying the FBI have no idea yet if the e-mails are a problem or not and if they need too they'll have to refer it to the intelligence services to decide what level classification it is.
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Obama is apparently on his way to campaign in Florida, are they scared she will lose that vital state ?
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Florida is close and if she wins it then it's game over for Trump. So they're going to target it. Clinton could win without either Florida or Ohio.
Like so:
But try doing a map for Trump winning without Florida.
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28-10-2016, 21:28
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Re: US Election 2016
There is more to the email issue and the FBI have continued their investigations involving their cyber crimes department and rumour is the NSA has been aiding as well something is clearly going on and it isn't just about a sexually deviant acquaintance. For them to announce this while the campaign is still running says to me that they do have something relating to clinton and it's enough for them to put their neck on the line. Most top posts in federal agencies are very political they rarely annoy the senior politicians without a damn good reason and especially if that senior politician is heading for the white house.
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28-10-2016, 21:36
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
There is more to the email issue and the FBI have continued their investigations involving their cyber crimes department and rumour is the NSA has been aiding as well something is clearly going on and it isn't just about a sexually deviant acquaintance. For them to announce this while the campaign is still running says to me that they do have something relating to clinton and it's enough for them to put their neck on the line. Most top posts in federal agencies are very political they rarely annoy the senior politicians without a damn good reason and especially if that senior politician is heading for the white house.
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I would agree, they would not just go along with this if it was anything minor. They would be risking their careers if this was something insignificant.
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