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Old 03-09-2013, 19:31   #91
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Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels

Ohh well think might have to get a call in - partner is not happy with the Virgin bills so think a threat about leaving might be in place to get lower bills and upgraded to 120mbit.
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Old 03-09-2013, 19:43   #92
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Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels

That what i done to get it.
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:42   #93
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Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels

So been on 120 for about 2 days now and its working ok

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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.2.9200]
(c) 2012 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Martin>tracert www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.246.90]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

One thing i have noticed is that the sh2 will not respond to a Traceroute it just sends a Request timed out

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms router.asus.com [192.168.1.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 81 ms 8 ms 9 ms uddi-geam-1b-ge923.network.virginmedia.net [62.2
52.47.245]
4 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms uddi-core-1b-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [80.3
.16.141]
5 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms uddi-core-1a-ge-100-0.network.virginmedia.net [8
0.3.16.65]
6 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms leed-bb-1a-as10-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.1
05.159.70]
7 15 ms 14 ms 13 ms leed-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253
.187.186]
8 19 ms 18 ms 17 ms nrth-bb-1b-et-400-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.
253.175.46]
9 19 ms 18 ms 18 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.
174.18]
10 20 ms 20 ms 18 ms pos6-1.rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.237]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93]
13 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms 132.185.255.164
14 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms bbc-vip011.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.90]

Trace complete.

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Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels

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Preston is good for VM customers because it's hosted on VM's own network, and a relatively decent part of it too.

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WTF is Edinburgh LINX? LINX is London Internet eXchange. London is not in Edinburgh.

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We already have a major IXP in Scotland and Virgin already connect to it, as do most other major ISPs.

Chances are if they build a new one, it'll be right next to the old one, which also happens to be right next VM's biggest datacentre in Scotland anyway. I doubt they'll take much time to "move straight onto it" when they're already sat next door.

Then again everything VM does around here is either slow or to save money, and this doesn't save them much money so go figure...

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Hah.

Indeed, VM has had interconnects in Scotland with all the major providers for years and yet uses none of them for consumer broadband.

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There's very little "the world" reachable from Edinburgh for any data to go. The only traffic that VM would benefit from sending over the link is to central and northern Scotland, which bluntly speaking, contains nothing of internetery significance.

For all other traffic, it is of benefit to VM to keep it on their own network as far as possible, which means taking it down to London or Amsterdam internally and routing it out from there.

Even at the biggest Scottish universities - the biggest non-ISP data carriers around, with thousands of internal servers and a captive audience - you'd be surprised how little traffic actually goes or stays anywhere near Scotland.

I was reading a story that when IXScotland goes live and providers like vm/bt/ join it. It would help bring the ping time down in scotland. is this a lot of lies or will this happen

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2013/02/scotland-planning-to-build-its-own-internet-exchange-for-isps.html

John Souter, CEO of LINX, said (Scotsman):

“The biggest difference users will see is in terms of what is called “latency” – the time lapse which can cause gaps – like a pause in conversation. The less distance information has to travel the less problem there is with latency.

This is very important to games players, where low 
latency is critical, as well as Skype and other voice services and anything where there are transactions such as banking services.”
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I was reading a story that when IXScotland goes live and providers like vm/bt/ join it. It would help bring the ping time down in scotland. is this a lot of lies or will this happen

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...-for-isps.html

John Souter, CEO of LINX, said (Scotsman):

“The biggest difference users will see is in terms of what is called “latency” – the time lapse which can cause gaps – like a pause in conversation. The less distance information has to travel the less problem there is with latency.

This is very important to games players, where low 
latency is critical, as well as Skype and other voice services and anything where there are transactions such as banking services.”
It should definitely be an improvement for you guys. Hard to say how much by, but the idea is pretty simple: At the moment if you try to connect to (say) a server in London, you have to bounce through a bunch of different peering sites around the country. Now it's pretty fast, but each "hop" is going to add a small amount of delay, possibly even a sub-1ms delay but a delay none the less. I think the idea is that Scotland would have a hub that's connected directly to London (And likely other places, like Manchester and possibly some other places around the world), shaving off a few valuable ms depending on what you're connecting to.
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Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels

It will have direct peering with other countries, I think New York and Holland probably some more.

I wasn't aware of any other IX in Scotland, and I said Edinburgh Linx cause the Linx people are highly involved but then again mr grumpy was extra grumpy that day

The key thing though is that they configure the traffic to go through it and it should help with latency for Scotland.
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Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels

Was just having conversation with one of virgin network people he has been working on the cabinet outside our house for 2 days. he said he was doing Noise control for a upgrade on the Upstream from 16 to 64 ?. So does this just let them have more Upstream ??

To be honest i had no idea what he was saying all a bit too technical for me LOL

Had 3 outages yesterday



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QAM16 to QAM64, I believe seph has talked about this a few times. At a basic level, it gives each channel more bandwidth to play with but the side effect is that it's more prone to noise (hence the noise control). It's a good thing!
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Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels

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…... he said he was doing Noise control for a upgrade on the Upstream from 16 to 64 ?. …...
To be honest i had no idea what he was saying all a bit too technical for me LOL

Had 3 outages yesterday…..
If he still around ask him how many amps are in your cascade chain and whether he working down the chain from the o/e FN node on his own or with help?

The outages may well be the work he's already doing (or a colleague) upstream.

You appear to already have the new channel plan with 4 possible upstream 6.4MHz RF with 200khz guard bands (24.4, 31.0 , 36.6, 43.2) in space of 3 typical existing centre frequencies (27.4, 35.8, 45.8, ) previously.
Theoretically I think you could get 6 x 6.4MHz x QAM64 channels from 17.8MHz thru 59.8MHz based on those centre frequencies just before replacing legacy 5-55MHz DOCSIS Bidi amps to accommodate the (euro)DOCSIS3.0 (5-85MHz) upstream spec and expanding upstream capacity further.

However VM may be trying to defer replacement amps in order to accommodate wide bandwidth DOCSIS3.1 amps for OFDM with bottom,mid and top band splits. Replacing all UK (or large proportion of legacy Gerold) equipment is not something you leap into without significant planning and you certainly don't want to do it twice in as many years (usually only within 2 decades or more if you can stretch it)!

These things can therefore take significant time….(DOCSIS3.1) OFDM is still probably a a couple of years away yet from practical commercial quantities at least?

I also suspect VM will want to leapfrog from current 8x4 DOCSIS tuner to 24x8 channels and by-pass Puma6 and Broadcom equivalents before trialling a SuperHub 4 version. Interesting times…..
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I sure as don't have friends at Virgin Media, still not letting me upgrade!

Tried the whole "ohh could you try sending the file to the modem for me?" and got shot down apparently there is no option on the system for him to do that! Ahh well looks like end of October (or what ever they extend it to after that passes) for me!
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Had 1 outage today and now the broadband is so slow



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Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels

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Still working for you ?

I just got called from a friend close to your area who's lost his connection this morning. Checked mine and i'ts been going up and down like the panties of a $5 crack prozzie.
EDIT : I'm in the G72 area, not too far from you.
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Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels

Just got off the phone they are saying it is affecting a big part of this Area

Fault reference: F002669808

Estimated fix time: 16/09/13 - 04:05 PM

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EDIT: My connection has been ok this morning. But my next door neighbors is offline
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Just got off the phone they are saying it is affecting a big part of this Area

Fault reference: F002669808

Estimated fix time: 16/09/13 - 04:05 PM

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EDIT: My connection has been ok this morning. But my next door neighbors is offline
I just checked the postcode fault check page and it's saying that nothing is wrong in my area. Strange as it took a few attempts to get to the page in the first place.
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