General : Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jfman

BT won’t have definitive plans for anything re BT Sport - you can’t put half of your business up for sale and commit your as yet unidentifiable business partner to your business model. It only decreases the pool of potential investors.

The most obvious reason to accept a short term contract (over none) is that taking a hit later rather than now is an improved financial outcome. Regardless of how many people genuinely have BT Sport as a factor for subscribing tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, will be onto retentions.

AFAIK any initial interest shown in buying the BT Sport channels came to nothing. Perhaps they intend to make it (more?) profitable by cutting out the middleman and keeping all the subs* by streaming??

* They would have to pay a commission to VM if they put this on VM. Perhaps this is what any dispute is about. Wasn't it Disney + who wouldn't join because VM wanted too big a cut?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

AFAIK any initial interest shown in buying the BT Sport channels came to nothing. Perhaps they intend to make it (more?) profitable by cutting out the middleman and keeping all the subs* by streaming??

* They would have to pay a commission to VM if they put this on VM. Perhaps this is what any dispute is about. Wasn't it Disney + who wouldn't join because VM wanted too big a cut?

I’d say they are more likely to exit the market entirely.

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by epsilon

Not a good time for digitalbitrate's Virgin Media monitor to be offline.

DBR is working now.

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

AFAIK any initial interest shown in buying the BT Sport channels came to nothing. Perhaps they intend to make it (more?) profitable by cutting out the middleman and keeping all the subs* by streaming??

* They would have to pay a commission to VM if they put this on VM. Perhaps this is what any dispute is about. Wasn't it Disney + who wouldn't join because VM wanted too big a cut?

Speaking of interest in buying the BT Sport channels (or lack of interest):
https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...rt_457476.html

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

DBR is working now.

It reappeared sometime yesterday.

[Media Boy UK]

TiVo has reveal that Eurosport UHD and BBC Red Button HD are both showing listing after August 11th.

Eurosport 3 HD to Eurosport 9 HD will have "Coming soon" from 2am on August 9th.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jfman

I’d say they are more likely to exit the market entirely.

Well, i've just been reading that BT Sport no longer has some of the rights that they previously had. Maybe it is actually winding down.

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

TiVo has reveal that Eurosport UHD and BBC Red Button HD are both showing listing after August 11th.

Eurosport 3 HD to Eurosport 9 HD will have "Coming soon" from 2am on August 9th.

The "Coming soon" listings could be because the entire listings originally were "Coming soon" and they only updated for actual content.

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by epsilon

Speaking of interest in buying the BT Sport channels (or lack of interest):
https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...rt_457476.html

ITV was not going to buy BT Sport anyway after all ITV got they feet burned in 2002 with the ITV Digital / ITV Sport Channel carry on.

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

ITV was not going to but BT Sport anyway after all ITV got they feet burned in 2002 with the ITV Digital / ITV Sport Channel.

At least they have confirmed that they won't be buying. I doubt that ITV have a lot of spare cash around following the downturn in the advertising market during lockdown.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Well, i've just been reading that BT Sport no longer has some of the rights that they previously had. Maybe it is actually winding down.

Can I ask where you read that, please?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Can I ask where you read that, please?

I can't remember as I was surfing the internet. From what I remember, it said something along the lines of BT Sport had lost a fair few rights over the last one or two years and were now going to/have lost the Women's Championship League and Bundesligue. It was also speculated that they would lose WWE to Comcast to put onto Peacock as has happened outside the UK.

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I can't remember as I was surfing the internet. From what I remember, it said something along the lines of BT Sport had lost a fair few rights over the last one or two years and were now going to/have lost the Women's Championship League and Bundesligue. It was also speculated that they would lose WWE to Comcast to put onto Peacock as has happened outside the UK.

As far as i know the WWE/BT contract was a 7 year deal, unless something has changed aka WWE bought the contract back.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

As far as i know the WWE/BT contract was a 7 year deal, unless something has changed aka WWE bought the contract back.

Found this:

https://cultaholic.com/posts/peacock-to-launch-in-uk

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Found this:

https://cultaholic.com/posts/peacock-to-launch-in-uk

That'll be the network the flagship shows will still be on BTsport as will the ppvs aswell as peacock if network closes, just like it is now ppvs are both on btsport box office and WWE Network.

[ozsat]

In the US you have to subscribe to Peacock to get the WWE Network material - it is not available on the free ad-funded package.
Also, they do not get the weekly Raw and Smackdown shows until at least 28 days after they transmission on other networks as these rights are different. So currently on US Peacock the latest shows are from the last week in June and we are in August.

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

That'll be the network the flagship shows will still be on BTsport as will the ppvs aswell as peacock if network closes, just like it is now ppvs are both on btsport box office and WWE Network.