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Old 26-03-2021, 15:20   #16
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Re: Justice League (2017)

I did enjoy it but it was a bit of a mess. He could of trimmed it down and it would probs of improved it. A lot of the CGI was shocking like, I did genuinely wonder what the extra 70m was spent on.
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Old 26-03-2021, 16:04   #17
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The 70 million covered editing, reshoots, sound, all the staff time and post production.

Some of the cgi wasn't the greatest but then it was done as a side project without a massive budget and also people probably did it at home. It still looks fairly decent in places.
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Old 26-03-2021, 18:21   #18
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you get a lot more back-story for the other characters
sounds like this should have been the original release. The gripe I have with stuff like this is that the film only works if you can relate to the characters and the characters gel with one another. As they hadn't established all the characters in their own origin films this film probably would have gone down a lot better if they could have spent the first half of the film (i.e. a good 2 hours) just introducing Aquaman, The Flash and Cyborg and giving them more depth.
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I haven't seen the vanilla version, and only just got round to watching Man of Steel, batman Vs Superman, Suicide Squad, and Wonder Woman over last week or so ready for this.

I enjoyed it, it was long, but as you say, had to be long to introduce as to ppl we don't know about. I guess the reason is Superman, Batman, Wonder woman will attract crowds to cinema, ppl that don't go often, but Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman, not so much.

Interestingly I read that Cyborg is in this version a lot more than the theatrical hut, hence he has beef with the studio, seems a bit like John Boyega Vs Star Wars, but in this case does seem odd to cut out a character fairly important to the plot.
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Old 26-03-2021, 22:26   #20
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The theatrical edit was dreadful. So many scenes were reshot and edited so much they made very little sense as well as Joss Whedon putting in so many Avengers MCU style jokes and one liners that just fell flat. Most of Flash and Cyborg scenes were removed and those that were left in gave them little or nothing useful to do. Cyborgs mum was removed completely and the dad was practically in it for a few mins with his big scenes being removed and a new ending for him. Darkseid is totally removed and Steppenwolf is the main bad guy but is really dumb. The films opening scene features Batman fighting a parademon with no explanation.

I'd maybe try watching it just to see how long you last. It really was bad.
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Old 27-03-2021, 10:28   #21
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Watched the first 3 hours 20 minutes of the Snyderverse Cut - finish it off tonight.

Started off a bit slow, but it's worth persevering, because you get a lot more back-story for the other characters, with occasional superheroes (appearing briefly) that weren't in the 2017 version (Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter).

Only one small niggle/comment - Avengers:Age of Ultron would like their opening scene back, please...

I watched it over 2 sittings when it came out a week ago. It is immeasurably superior to the “rent a hack” Whedon debacle.

4hrs is a bit much, I think they originally were going to release it as a mini-series and it is constructed into chapters that would have allowed that if they went that way.

Steppenwolf is much better represented and we get a Palpatine type character too.

Perhaps they’ll do the right thing and re-cut Suicide Squad now.
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I watched it over 2 sittings when it came out a week ago. It is immeasurably superior to the “rent a hack” Whedon debacle.

4hrs is a bit much, I think they originally were going to release it as a mini-series and it is constructed into chapters that would have allowed that if they went that way.

Steppenwolf is much better represented and we get a Palpatine type character too.

Perhaps they’ll do the right thing and re-cut Suicide Squad now.
Already been confirmed that a new cut of Suicide Squad will not be happening. Perhaps due to the new reboot/sequel coming out soon.
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They did an extended cut but it wasn't much better than the original.
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They did an extended cut but it wasn't much better than the original.
I liked the Suicide Squad. I’m sure there’s a better version to be had. I liked Leto’s version of the Joker, 2nd only behind Ledger in my opinion. I know he had lots of scenes cut, so much so he was turned into an incidental character.

I was happy to see him pop up in JL.

If Warner’s hadn’t panicked, and given Snyder time to develop the DCCU, it could have really turned out a hell of a lot better than it did.
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Most folk don't like the Leto Joker but many have warmed to him in the Snyder Cut as his look and character seem fairly different.
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They didn't panic though. Snyders daughter died so he had to back out. The issue was letting Joss reshoot most of the movie so he could have a directors credit on the movie.
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