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Election 2019 - Week 4
View Poll Results: Your voting intention at this stage of the campaign
Labour 10 23.81%
Conservative 19 45.24%
Liberal Democrat 3 7.14%
UKIP 0 0%
Brexit 3 7.14%
Green 0 0%
Change UK 0 0%
Plaid Cymru 0 0%
SNP 1 2.38%
Irish Nationalist 1 2.38%
Irish unionist 0 0%
Other 1 2.38%
Abstaining 2 4.76%
Ineligible 0 0%
Undecided 2 4.76%
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Old 03-12-2019, 15:29   #121
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 4

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The papers are either clearly civil service briefing for meetings or they aren't. If Russian sources are involved in providing them I fail to see the relevance. If they're genuine they are genuine. If not that should be easy to prove.
The relevance is obvious. The papers are being used out of context to allow one side of the debate to advance a certain point of view (actually just a riff on the same threat they’ve been making for 40 years, and it hasn’t happened yet, but hey). The effect is destabilising and the potential gain for Russian foreign policy is also therefore obvious. They’re not interested in any one party having a strong grip on power. Their greatest benefit is in weak, unstable government, of the kind gifted us by the 2017 election.

To repeat, for the benefit of those who have been thoroughly brainwashed by 40 years of Labour claiming the Tories really, really, honestly definitely this time, on the brink of selling the NHS: these are briefing documents arising from exploratory talks designed to set out the UK position and discover the US position. So what if the US wants to buy the NHS, or increase its prices for selling goods and services to the NHS. Nothing anywhere in this material says the Tories are about to give it to them.

Except, as I keep saying, people will believe what they want to believe.
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 4

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Labour magazine the New Statesman has turned its back on Jeremy Corbyn after calling him "unfit to serves as Prime Minister".

The left-wing publication today published an election editorial in which it refused to support Mr Corbyn's bid for power ahead of the general election in eight days.

The magazine has been a required reading for the Labour Party for decades.

In a bombshell issue, it said the Labour leader's "reluctance to apologise" for his handling of the party's anti-Semitism crisis meant he should not be put into Downing Street's Number 10.
New Statesman editorial link here

They're pretty scathing about all the leaders and the state of UK politics.
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 4

Meanwhile, the Jewish LABOUR Movement has said in a private (leaked) submission to the Equality and Human Rights Commission that it thinks the Labour Party is no longer a ‘safe space’ for Jewish people.

https://order-order.com/2019/12/05/r...mitism-labour/

Considering this anti semitism lark is all just a great big Tory smear, they have been surprisingly effective at getting Labour’s own traditional support base to sign up to it.

See also Labour activists opining that Corbyn is unfit for office ... when they’re presented with his anti Semitic opinions, but told it was Boris that said them:

https://order-order.com/2019/12/05/c...sm-said-boris/
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Meanwhile, the Jewish LABOUR Movement has said in a private (leaked) submission to the Equality and Human Rights Commission that it thinks the Labour Party is no longer a ‘safe space’ for Jewish people.

https://order-order.com/2019/12/05/r...mitism-labour/

Considering this anti semitism lark is all just a great big Tory smear, they have been surprisingly effective at getting Labour’s own traditional support base to sign up to it.

See also Labour activists opining that Corbyn is unfit for office ... when they’re presented with his anti Semitic opinions, but told it was Boris that said them:

https://order-order.com/2019/12/05/c...sm-said-boris/
I've got the popcorn readyfor jfman's reply.
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I've got the popcorn ready for jfman's reply.
My thoughts exactly.
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I've got the popcorn readyfor jfman's reply.
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Meanwhile, the Jewish LABOUR Movement has said in a private (leaked) submission to the Equality and Human Rights Commission that it thinks the Labour Party is no longer a ‘safe space’ for Jewish people.

https://order-order.com/2019/12/05/r...mitism-labour/

Considering this anti semitism lark is all just a great big Tory smear, they have been surprisingly effective at getting Labour’s own traditional support base to sign up to it.

See also Labour activists opining that Corbyn is unfit for office ... when they’re presented with his anti Semitic opinions, but told it was Boris that said them:

https://order-order.com/2019/12/05/c...sm-said-boris/
I was reading this earlier,it's all a bit disturbing.
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/j...ation-1.493993
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