09-01-2019, 12:47
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
The fact of the matter is that the only electoral party offering a no-deal Brexit - UKIP - was rebuffed by the British electorate at the last election. If the electorate had wanted a no-deal Brexit, they had their chance to elect a Government that would deliver it, They didn't. Those MPs are therefore not going against the will of the people and are not treacherous.
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As thin arguments go, they don't come any thinner than that!
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09-01-2019, 13:13
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#6077
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Pierre
As thin arguments go, they don't come any thinner than that!
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Thin, but enough for our two big parties to help them sleep at night when they euthanise Brexit.
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09-01-2019, 13:32
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Cable Forum Team
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
Thin, but enough for our two big parties to help them sleep at night when they euthanise Brexit.
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Talking of sleeping as that is purely you dreaming again.... 
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Originally Posted by jfman
That’s an ideal solution for Parliament to be honest.
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So really, you advocate that you want the country to become a dictatorship, ok, got it.
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09-01-2019, 13:37
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
It will never happen pip, they expect us to sit there and smile when our democracy is destroyed for their own selfish reasons to stay in a declining corrupted EU and then expect us to cross a bridge and make amends, not going to happen at all.
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I know that Mick but as he is late to the party I just thought I'd answer his question. 
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09-01-2019, 13:42
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Remoaner
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Re: Brexit
BTW Bercow seems to have declared himself Lord Emperor of the British Constitution in Parliament.
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09-01-2019, 13:48
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
BTW Bercow seems to have declared himself Lord Emperor of the British Constitution in Parliament.
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Yes I've been watching in astonishment.
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09-01-2019, 14:27
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cf.mega poster
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Re: Brexit
Greive's amendment passes by 308 to 297 majority 11
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09-01-2019, 14:33
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Remoaner
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Re: Brexit
Doesn't really matter. She has to come back with a plan. The plan can be to go down the pub and get wasted so long as she 'presents it to the house'.
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09-01-2019, 14:40
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
Doesn't really matter. She has to come back with a plan. The plan can be to go down the pub and get wasted so long as she 'presents it to the house'.
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That should keep Anna sourbelly happy.
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09-01-2019, 15:16
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NoT 1oF tHe UsUaLSuSpeCtS
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
That should keep Anna sourbelly happy.
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ROFL
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09-01-2019, 16:14
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Still alive and fighting
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Dave42
Greive's amendment passes by 308 to 297 majority 11
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Theresa May has seen 12 defeats in the Commons since the 2017 election - more than Thatcher and Blair ever lost combined..
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09-01-2019, 16:21
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Trollsplatter
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by denphone
Theresa May has seen 12 defeats in the Commons since the 2017 election - more than Thatcher and Blair ever lost combined..
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Neither of them ever had a minority in Parliament, or anything remotely close to one.
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Originally Posted by Damien
Doesn't really matter. She has to come back with a plan. The plan can be to go down the pub and get wasted so long as she 'presents it to the house'.
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Indeed ... the Mogg pointed out this afternoon, all she has to do to satisfy the resolution is to table something. There doesn’t even have to be a vote on it. The question really is how bold dare she be? Will she take it as literally as she can and weather the howling, or will she cave in?
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09-01-2019, 16:28
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#6088
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Still alive and fighting
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Chris
Neither of them ever had a minority in Parliament, or anything remotely close to one.
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Indeed but she only has herself to blame for being in such a weak position don't you agree? as if ever we needed a strong leader with a decent working majority that time would have been now.
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09-01-2019, 16:44
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Don't give up on your rights just because society is blighted by a cancer, the solution is cut out the cancer and destroy all the affected cells that are eating away at democracy.
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And how would you propose that is done?
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09-01-2019, 16:59
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Remoaner
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Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Indeed ... the Mogg pointed out this afternoon, all she has to do to satisfy the resolution is to table something. There doesn’t even have to be a vote on it. The question really is how bold dare she be? Will she take it as literally as she can and weather the howling, or will she cave in?
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She'll just say the plan is to seek further reassurances and changes around the backstop or something. She'll give some level of effort and respect to the motion, no point antagonising them for the sake of it as that can obviously backfire badly.
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