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Old 07-09-2019, 14:30   #2056
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Re: PM Boris forms a government

Link to EU Parliament briefing (pdf)
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The right of a Member State to withdraw from the European Union was introduced for
the first time with the Lisbon Treaty. Prior to that, the question of the right of
withdrawal was highly controversial. Some authors had argued for the application of
customary international law (clausula rebus sic stantibus, also established in Article 62
of the Vienna Convention on the Law of the Treaties providing for unilateral withdrawal
from international treaties) within the EU framework. Moreover, several constitutional
courts saw a unilateral right to withdraw from the EU as necessary in order to preserve
national sovereignty.
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The inclusion of a right to withdraw from the Union in the Draft Constitutional Treaty
was based on the premise that such a withdrawal would have been permissible anyway
through application of the general principles of international law
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Re: PM Boris forms a government

Lock him up!
If BoJo doesn't obey the laws of Parliament, he could find himself in jail if he refuses to delay Brexit. More BoJail than BoJo then!
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...chief-11804290

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Old 07-09-2019, 14:44   #2058
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Lock him up!
If BoJo doesn't obey the laws of Parliament, he could find himself in jail if he refuses to delay Brexit. More BoJail than BoJo then!
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...chief-11804290
No one is above the law and that includes Prime Ministers..
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Old 07-09-2019, 15:27   #2059
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Old 07-09-2019, 17:21   #2060
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That's all about leaving the EU, not the Withdrawal Agreement that the ERG thwarted.
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It doesn't...

The Vienna Convention is very clear that withdrawal should be agreed, not unilateral.

http://theconversation.com/brexit-wh...utation-113591

And re Article 62 - this from the Conservative Attorney-General.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47568883
It doesn’t matter, it’s already been agreed, we triggered article 50 and the EU accepted it.

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Old 07-09-2019, 17:38   #2062
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It doesn’t matter, it’s already been agreed, we triggered article 50 and the EU accepted it.

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Re: PM Boris forms a government

With a General Election inevitable here is the latest polling.

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Westminster voting intention:

CON: 31% (+10)
LAB: 28% (-3)
LDEM: 19% (+6)
BREX: 15% (-4)
GRN: 2% (-3)

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Westminster voting intention:

CON: 29% (-2)
LAB: 24% (-)
LDEM: 18% (-3)
BREX: 17% (+3)
GRN: 3% (-)

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OK, then...

Indulge me. What have I failed to comprehend?
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If there's one thing he should have learnt from Theresa May and that's no red lines.

We will have an election once Boris honours Parliament's vote on no-deal. Until then, he's distrusted so the opposition parties quite sensibly won't permit an election to take place yet.
i.e. Boxed in.
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No one is above the law and that includes Prime Ministers..
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Re: PM Boris forms a government

Another opinion poll that has just been released gives the Conservatives a 14 point lead.


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CON: 35% (-)
LAB: 21% (-4)
LDEM: 19% (+3)
BREX: 12% (+1)

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Indulge me. What have I failed to comprehend?
lol, a dangerous question to ask!

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Re: PM Boris forms a government

Exclusive from Tim Shipman of The Times.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politi...n=bbc_politics

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EXCLUSIVE: Amber Rudd has just resigned from the cabinet. See her interview in the Sunday Times
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Amber Rudd has resigned the Conservative whip and plans to run as an independent Conservative at the general election. See the Sunday Times
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Exclusive from Tim Shipman of The Times.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politi...n=bbc_politics
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