BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
17-02-2020, 19:16
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
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Originally Posted by denphone
l was just thinking late last night in that a digital subscription to one UK newspaper for over a year is £312-a-year and that is versus "everything" the BBC provides for £154.50.
Now which is the value Andrew?.
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Obvisously the BBC, which enjoys huge economies of scale and low payment collection costs.
My feeling is that BoJo is doing some Labouresque things that risk the possibility of alienating his populist fans. Things like HS2, nationalising ailing companies and contemplating tax rises.
If he can throw those populist fans a small bone like decriminalising the licence fee and poking the BBC bear a few times, they will happily forgive and forget those Labouresque policies.
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17-02-2020, 19:30
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
The sooner its gone, the better.
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17-02-2020, 19:52
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
Tv and radio is not a life essential
Hence if I chose to watch some Live tv on nowtv I shouldn’t have to legally purchase a tv license from the bbc
It’s such a backwards tax - a license to watch tv! Madness!
Make it a subscription. I’m happy to subscribe to it if I chose to watch bbc content
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Why are fans of the BBC in the media purposefully conflating 2 separate issues
This is not a debate about BBC content
This is a debate about an outdated funding model not fit for the 21st century which can put poor people in prison for not paying a tv tax
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17-02-2020, 21:12
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
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Originally Posted by DerekDuvale
Tv and radio is not a life essential
Hence if I chose to watch some Live tv on nowtv I shouldn’t have to legally purchase a tv license from the bbc
It’s such a backwards tax - a license to watch tv! Madness!
Make it a subscription. I’m happy to subscribe to it if I chose to watch bbc content
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Why are fans of the BBC in the media purposefully conflating 2 separate issues
This is not a debate about BBC content
This is a debate about an outdated funding model not fit for the 21st century which can put poor people in prison for not paying a tv tax
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24 people were imprisoned for not paying their fines (fined for not having a TV licence) in 2017-2018 - an average of one person a month.
Not exactly an epidemic of imprisonment for this, is it?
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17-02-2020, 21:19
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
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Originally Posted by Hugh
24 people were imprisoned for not paying their fines (fined for not having a TV licence) in 2017-2018 - an average of one person a month.
Not exactly an epidemic of imprisonment for this, is it?
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I'm still wiping a tear away from my eye generated by all this newly found sympathy for the poor of the country.
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18-02-2020, 00:35
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
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24 people were imprisoned for not paying their fines (fined for not having a TV licence) in 2017-2018 - an average of one person a month.
Not exactly an epidemic of imprisonment for this, is it?
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Its 24 more than it should be.
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18-02-2020, 07:44
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
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24 people were imprisoned for not paying their fines (fined for not having a TV licence) in 2017-2018 - an average of one person a month.
Not exactly an epidemic of imprisonment for this, is it?
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24 people too many.
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18-02-2020, 08:31
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
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Its 24 more than it should be.
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While I don't actually agree with the TV licence, at this moment in time, if you are required to have one, then you should have one. If you don't have one and also dont pay the fine when caught, then it doesn't bother me how many were imprisoned. That's what's wrong with society today, thinking they can do what they want with no consequences.
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18-02-2020, 09:26
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
I might tell VM I'm not going to pay anymore, let's see what they say.
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18-02-2020, 09:43
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
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I might tell VM I'm not going to pay anymore, let's see what they say.
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They would say see you in 6 months time when you realise other broadband providers speed is pants.
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18-02-2020, 09:45
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
The Times this morning was reporting on this. John Whittingdale who really doesn't like the BBC has said a subscription model would be "politically impossible" as the BBC would need to be taken off Freeview ( Times front cover)
If you look at the demographics of who uses Freeview only ( link page 5)
AND the demographics of who votes Conservative ( link
there is some significant crossover. It would be interesting to see the demographics of viewing figures by age but I bet there's a crossover there...
The licence fee may come out at the 'least worst' option after all this
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18-02-2020, 14:59
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
As above - viewable link.
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Boris Johnson is at odds with his senior Downing Street advisers, including Dominic Cummings, over plans to scrap the BBC licence fee and replace it with a voluntary subscription system, The Times has learnt.
The prime minister favours “reform rather than revolution” and is significantly less gung ho about abandoning the licence fee than Mr Cummings, his chief special adviser, who is said to be “ideological” about the issue.
It has also emerged that John Whittingdale, a minister appointed last week to help to oversee the reforms, said that moving to a subscription model was “politically utterly impossible”.
The culture minister said in an interview the day before he was appointed that the only way to move to a subscription system would be to “turn off Freeview and move it all online”. However, Freeview, Britain’s largest television platform, used by 18 million homes, does not have the technology to switch off particular stations for non-subscribers.
“There are large parts of the country that haven’t got broadband or indeed choose not to pay for it,” Mr Whittingdale, also a former culture secretary, told a podcast by The Critic magazine. “You are turning round to all those households that don’t have fast broadband and saying, ‘You can’t get the BBC any more.’ Politically that would be utterly impossible. It is just not possible to make the BBC a voluntary subscription service for as long as it is broadcast on Freeview. We are some way off being able to switch off Freeview and put it all online.”
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18-02-2020, 17:10
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
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Why do they need to move it online? Top Up TV proved you could encrypt freeview channels for a fee years ago
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19-02-2020, 00:00
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
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Why do they need to move it online? Top Up TV proved you could encrypt freeview channels for a fee years ago
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How many TVs have that facility? TopUp TV mandated a special Thomson PVR with a CAD slot, if I remember correctly,
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19-02-2020, 07:43
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Re: BBC licence fee to be reviewed by Conservatives
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How many TVs have that facility? TopUp TV mandated a special Thomson PVR with a CAD slot, if I remember correctly,
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How many tv's were digital when the analogue was switched of, no one cared then that you needed a stb to watch anything.
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Originally Posted by Mythica
If you don't watch TV, why are you forced to pay it?
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Answered that in post 73...
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