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Old 16-01-2024, 20:56   #1471
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aye and Richard Tice has invited them both to join reform

https://twitter.com/christopherhope/...27165207634004

Well, that will help raise the average IQ level of both organisations…
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Starmer doesn’t fill me with paroxysms of joy but he does strike me as a capable, if boring, leader, with an eye for detail and experience of running a serious public service. He literally can’t do any worse than Rishi Sunak and given Sunak’s almost complete disconnection from how most of us actually live in this country he is almost inevitably going to do better.
The prospect of labour and Starmer does not fill me with any joy at all, and I dont know if hes capable or not.
I do know we'll find out soon enough, and tbh, at this point it is quite hard to imagine how he could do any worse.

That said, lots of people said we could not do worse than BoJo, and yet we got Liz ....
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Lee Anderson has said he could not vote against Rishi Sunak’s Rwanda bill because Labour MPs were “giggling” at him.

The ex-Tory deputy chairman, who quit on Tuesday in order to rebel over the policy, said opposition MPs were “giggling and laughing and taking the mick”, adding: “I couldn’t vote"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2480667.html

Ah, he's such a delicate flower !
A bit daft to resign to do something, then you don't end up doing it!
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Old 18-01-2024, 12:18   #1475
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Ah, he's such a delicate flower !
A bit daft to resign to do something, then you don't end up doing it!
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Old 18-01-2024, 13:44   #1476
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi

I've bought the popcorn, so to speak. Can't wait to watch the fun and games that will now ensue.

In a sense, Sunak was right to not allow amendment because it would result in a breach of international law, which is a bad thing for the UK to be doing. But that, in turn, was driven by Rwanda threatening to pull out if we breached international law. A vicious circle on a scheme that cannot work.

So - what to do; bite the real bullet and turn the boats back to France. There will be some sea dramas, but not for long. France will rattle its sabres but at the end of the day, France is allowing the UK to be invaded. We should not be afraid of facing France and even the EU down.

The above is in the absence of a comprehensive agreement between all European countries (a very difficult thing to achieve) - but we should get that ball rolling.
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi

Sunak is perceived as weak but these so-called rebels are even weaker. This is the 2nd (maybe 3rd?) time they've talked a good game, given themselves weird names like 'The 5 Families', and done tours of the news studios talking themselves up before meekly giving into Sunak with no concessions.

Hopefully, the news companies will just ignore them next time. They've proven time and time again that they're all talk and no action so why waste time on their childish antics?
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Sunak was totally right in calling there bluff and the rebels folded so easily all bark no bite
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Old 18-01-2024, 15:21   #1479
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I've bought the popcorn, so to speak. Can't wait to watch the fun and games that will now ensue.

In a sense, Sunak was right to not allow amendment because it would result in a breach of international law, which is a bad thing for the UK to be doing. But that, in turn, was driven by Rwanda threatening to pull out if we breached international law. A vicious circle on a scheme that cannot work.

So - what to do; bite the real bullet and turn the boats back to France. There will be some sea dramas, but not for long. France will rattle its sabres but at the end of the day, France is allowing the UK to be invaded. We should not be afraid of facing France and even the EU down.

The above is in the absence of a comprehensive agreement between all European countries (a very difficult thing to achieve) - but we should get that ball rolling.
It is always amusing when someone peddles populist tag lines without actually thinking through how it might actually be done, both in practical and legal terms.
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It is always amusing when someone peddles populist tag lines without actually thinking through how it might actually be done, both in practical and legal terms.
True - but to balance this out, note Starmer's weasel words "sustainable ceasefire" after he was pressured by the Muslim MPs.
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Old 18-01-2024, 16:37   #1481
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It is always amusing when someone peddles populist tag lines without actually thinking through how it might actually be done, both in practical and legal terms.
Speaking of which....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68017887

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Rishi Sunak has been rebuked by the UK's statistics watchdog over his claim to have cleared the backlog of asylum claims.

The Home Office claimed earlier this month to have cleared a "legacy" backlog of 92,000 applications lodged before July 2022.

The prime minister then posted on social media to say "the backlog of asylum decisions" had been cleared.

But the watchdog said people may have felt "misled" by his language.

Official figures show a decision had not been reached in 4,537 of the "legacy" cases highlighted by the Home Office.

And they also showed that there are still 98,599 cases in the overall backlog where an initial decision has yet to be made.

In a letter to opposition MPs who had complained, the UK Statistics Authority (UKSA) said Mr Sunak's claim had been "presented without context".

The boss of the watchdog, Sir Robert Chote, added that the episode "may affect public trust when the government sets targets and announces whether they have been met" in other areas.

He also criticised the Home Office for not detailing the 4,537 legacy cases without a decision when it initially made its announcement in an embargoed press release to journalists.

This prevented reporters from being "able to scrutinise the data when first reporting it," he added.
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The reprimand comes just weeks after the UKSA rebuked No 10 for saying that the government had reduced debt.

The watchdog suggested that claim "may have undermined trust in the government's use of statistics".

The prime minister was also criticised for his use of asylum backlog figures in April 2023. He had said that the backlog was half the size it was when Labour was last in office, but the UKSA said he was comparing with the wrong figures.
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Another day and another Tory Psychodrama plays out while the citizens of this country struggle to access even basic public services, while also some struggle to pay their bills and make ends meet.
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Another day and another Tory Psychodrama plays out while the citizens of this country struggle to access even basic public services, while also some struggle to pay their bills and make ends meet.
Thing is Den, they think tax cuts will save them, running down public services even more. Totally out of touch. Not surprising, since none of them use public services.
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Thing is Den, they think tax cuts will save them, running down public services even more. Totally out of touch. Not surprising, since none of them use public services.
I'm so embarrassed that my party's upper echelons can be so bad.

I've renewed my membership because the party must surely reform after the GE. I'll risk snide responses by saying that I'm one of the proper Conservatives who want the party to demonstrably return to the general principles of the Thatcher days. That said, I'm not happy about the big utilities sell-off and I suspect that will come right in due course.

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