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Election 2019 - Week 2
View Poll Results: Your voting intention at this stage of the campaign:
Labour 7 15.91%
Conservative 22 50.00%
Lib Dem 5 11.36%
UKIP 0 0%
Brexit 2 4.55%
Green 1 2.27%
Change UK 0 0%
Plaid Cymru 0 0%
SNP 1 2.27%
Irish nationalist 1 2.27%
Irish unionist 0 0%
Other 2 4.55%
Abstaining 1 2.27%
Ineligible 0 0%
Undecided 2 4.55%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 15-11-2019, 16:28   #61
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 2

The Lib Dems appear to always do well in local elections.
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The Lib Dems appear to always do well in local elections.
Only as a protest vote.
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Not sure how someone stating some services aren’t creating genuine competition makes them a Marxist/Communist - according to that logic, Adam Smith is a Marxist...

Or....

You could just be smearing someone?
What does make them Communist/Marxist is moving to a command economy. That is what it will be if the Openreach purchase price is decided by Parliament and not by the market.
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What does make them Communist/Marxist is moving to a command economy. That is what it will be if the Openreach purchase price is decided by Parliament and not by the market.
But wouldn’t that be the Will of the People, if Labour win the Election?

(btw, I think nationalisation of BT Openreach is a bad idea).
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But wouldn’t that be the Will of the People, if Labour win the Election?

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No, I will campaign to have another peoples vote, just to make sure people knew what they were voting for, two can play that game.
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No, I will campaign to have another peoples vote, just to make sure people knew what they were voting for, two can play that game.
Well that's why we have elections every few years, gives people chance to change their minds, makes politicians accountable. The problem with a certain other vote we've had is that there's no going back, it will affect us for decades and we didn't know what was on offer at the time of the vote.
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. . . and we didn't know what was on offer at the time of the vote.
I have a feeling that many knew (or realised) the only way out was a full, no holds barred, bye bye we're off scenario (with a casual backward flip of the fingers as we slammed the door)
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I have a feeling that many knew (or realised) the only way out was a full, no holds barred, bye bye we're off scenario (with a casual backward flip of the fingers as we slammed the door)
That's not what's currently on offer.
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That's not what's currently on offer.
No but it's much closer than what you want.
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The things these politicians say and do, just to get the vote, and once they have it, they'll think of a way to not carry it through. Don't trust any of them.
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The things these politicians say and do, just to get the vote, and once they have it, they'll think of a way to not carry it through. Don't trust any of them.
Very true. But the existential threat is Corbyn and his Commie-symps; it is necessary to chose the lesser evil in the elction.

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Very true. But the existential threat is Corbyn and his Commie-symps; it is necessary to chose the lesser evil in the elction.

'The Lesser Evil', not setting the bar high are we ?
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'The Lesser Evil', not setting the bar high are we ?
I don't know, we haven't included Jo Swinson so it could be worse.
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'The Lesser Evil', not setting the bar high are we ?
What was the point of that remark? Got anything better to offer?
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Very true. But the existential threat is Corbyn and his Commie-symps; it is necessary to chose the lesser evil in the elction.

I have a friend standing in our Constituency, and I’ve been active Conservative since the early 80’s (constituency officer, area officer, National YC officer, stood at both council and constituency level, worked in very many National and By-Elections, been a researcher for Heseltine and others), but I can’t vote Conservative in this election, because of language like that.

I served and actively worked against the Communist menace, and the Tory party should be elected in what it can do to benefit the country, not by using ‘reds under the bed" smear tactics.

The existential threat is the ex-communists (Putin et al) trying to weaken our country by using psy-ops tactics to spread fear against ‘Others’ and internal strife.
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