Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures - Page 22

Pierre · 24-05-2020, 19:58

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Originally Posted by Mythica

So where is he going to look it up to find the details of who owns it? Does he work for the Police or DVLA?

Well if did, and that is the only Way he could, He’ll be in trouble.

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Logic would state that he found out who it was and was trying to get some dirt on him to see if it was taxed and had an MOT. Just like people on Facebook look up the reg plates of Police cars and then post they have no MOT without understanding what they are actually posting.

This is not about what you or I would do, its what one certain person might do.

Logic certainly does not dictate that, if he knew it was Cummings’s car he wouldn’t have to look it up.

If he thought it was Cummings but wanted confirmation, he would have had to abuse access to the DVLA database.

jfman · 24-05-2020, 20:10

The witness states he saw a picture of Cummings car on the internet. That’s not illegal.

The DVLA public databases do not tell you the owner of a car, or the address of the registered keeper. It’s entirely useless for the purposes the witness describes. If you read the article he says he saw someone he thought was Dominic Cummings. The only tool at his disposal for confirming this was a number plate and looking for pictures of Dom outside his house on the internet.

Any journalist with the full number plate can walk past and see if it’s parked there.

None of this is illegal or changes the fact there’s an allegation that he was seen in breach of lockdown.

Mythica · 24-05-2020, 20:12

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Well if did, and that is the only Way he could, He’ll be in trouble.

Logic certainly does not dictate that, if he knew it was Cummings’s car he wouldn’t have to look it up.

If he thought it was Cummings but wanted confirmation, he would have had to abuse access to the DVLA database.

If he did is the key words. There is no evidence he looked up the plates to find out who it was illegally.

Logic does indicate that. That is if he used the government website that I linked to. Please tell me what retired 70 year is going to have access to such information of finding out who someone is by their licence plate?

You have 4 options here

1 - He accessed information from a Police or DVLA computer at 70 year old and retired

2 - He accessed the government website to check for tax and mot

3 - He accessed the askmid website to check for insurance

4 - He got an image from the Internet

First one I think its safe to rule out. Second one is plausible. Third one is plausible but you shouldn't be doing it and the fourth one is plausible and seems to be what happened.

Can I ask why you seem to want to go for the least likely option?

jfman · 24-05-2020, 20:17

2 and 3 don’t tell him who owns the vehicle. A picture of Dominic Cummings next to it outside his house doesn't either, but it’d be incredible if his neighbour was driving about Durham with a lookalike. Again, the police could confirm this with the full number plate.

Pierre · 24-05-2020, 20:27

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Originally Posted by Mythica

1 - He accessed information from a Police or DVLA computer at 70 year old and retired

2 - He accessed the government website to check for tax and mot

3 - He accessed the askmid website to check for insurance

4 - He got an image from the Internet

First one I think its safe to rule out. Second one is plausible. Third one is plausible but you shouldn't be doing it and the fourth one is plausible and seems to be what happened.

5 - he’s giving it a large portion of BS.

Yes I’ll go for no.5

jfman · 24-05-2020, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Pierre

5 - he’s giving it a large portion of BS.

Yes I’ll go for no.5

So are you not welcoming the police investigation and possibility that the witness gets prosecuted for wasting police time in the unlikely event you are right?

Mythica · 24-05-2020, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Pierre

5 - he’s giving it a large portion of BS.

Yes I’ll go for no.5

Ok, that's funny though as you seemed to think he was accessing information from the DVLA.

I don't know who he is so I'm not that bothered. I was responding to the quote Mick put on to someone saying isnt that illegal to look up someone's reg.

**Damien** · 24-05-2020, 20:34

Please stop with the poxy licence plate.

Pierre · 24-05-2020, 20:40

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Originally Posted by Mythica

Ok, that's funny though as you seemed to think he was accessing information from the DVLA.

I don't know who he is so I'm not that bothered. I was responding to the quote Mick put on to someone saying isnt that illegal to look up someone's reg.

I don’t know, nobody knows.

It is illegal to to obtain somebody’s details via their reg except For authorised reasons. It’s not illegal to look up reg’s on government websites to see if they Have tax or mot.

Mythica · 24-05-2020, 20:48

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Originally Posted by Pierre

I don’t know, nobody knows.

It is illegal to to obtain somebody’s details via their reg except For authorised reasons. It’s not illegal to look up reg’s on government websites to see if they Have tax or mot.

Which is what I basically said earlier. We've gone full circle for you to agree with me.

**Mick** · 24-05-2020, 20:51

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Originally Posted by Damien

Please stop with the poxy licence plate.

For the love of god, it better. No wonder Paul closed the thread for the night...

Pierre · 24-05-2020, 20:53

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Originally Posted by Mythica

Which is what I basically said earlier. We've gone full circle for you to agree with me.

It all started with this post, when you knew exactly what Mick was on about but wanted to start an unnecessary argument, as you did last night with me.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...&postcount=254

You are a pedant of the highest degree and this will be my last response to you on the matter.

jfman · 24-05-2020, 20:57

So what’s the betting on more sightings coming out? Have the Guardian/Mirror got more cards up their sleeves? Aces or jokers obviously depending where you stand. The police investigation will give negative press coverage for a few days but another sighting would up the ante with Boris all in.

It could be like an appeal for a stolen car.

Have you seen a silver/black Range Rover in beauty spots around the country - if so call Crimestoppers on...

**Chris** · 24-05-2020, 21:01

Dominic Cummings is an out and out hypocrite but even if he’s broken the law I’d be surprised if there’s another law that says he must lose his job.

He is a political appointment. His value is political. So long as Boris calculates his political value remains greater than the political cost of keeping him on, he stays.

Meantime, this unending game of Where’s Dominic is somehow even more tedious than lockdown. Or maybe for some folks it does relieve the boredom. Who knows, who cares.

That’s my 2p anyway.

Julian · 24-05-2020, 21:10

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Originally Posted by Chris

Dominic Cummings is an out and out hypocrite but even if he’s broken the law I’d be surprised if there’s another law that says he must lose his job.

He is a political appointment. His value is political. So long as Boris calculates his political value remains greater than the political cost of keeping him on, he stays.

Meantime, this unending game of Where’s Dominic is somehow even more tedious than lockdown. Or maybe for some folks it does relieve the boredom. Who knows, who cares.

That’s my 2p anyway.

THIS