Netflix/Streaming Services
12-08-2019, 14:00
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Trollsplatter
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
OB ... that’s the point at which it became clear you were changing your mind. It wasn’t you who brought broadband infrastructure into the thread. Fast broadband availability was the first and most obvious objection to your original claim. It was put to you and you took it on board, even though it now pains you to admit it.
Post 128, which you were answering in post 129, asked “I thought it was 10?” - because up to that point that was your argument and everyone participating at the time understood that to be the case. Your wee body-swerve in post 129 was a neat attempt to claim you had always believed what in fact you had recently been persuaded of by others, but nobody bought it then, and it’s clear from recent comments in this thread that nobody’s buying it now.
You’re caught bang to rights. Just admit it (I know you won’t).
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12-08-2019, 15:26
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by jfman
How will people consume news - you know the popcorn out stuff - disaster coverage of tsunamis, missing teenagers, earthquakes, volcanos and explosions in white countries other than on a 24/7 linear channel?
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Have you never heard of the BBC i-Player? That carries live programmes as well as VOD and works perfectly well.
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Originally Posted by Chris
OB ... that’s the point at which it became clear you were changing your mind. It wasn’t you who brought broadband infrastructure into the thread. Fast broadband availability was the first and most obvious objection to your original claim. It was put to you and you took it on board, even though it now pains you to admit it.
Post 128, which you were answering in post 129, asked “I thought it was 10?” - because up to that point that was your argument and everyone participating at the time understood that to be the case. Your wee body-swerve in post 129 was a neat attempt to claim you had always believed what in fact you had recently been persuaded of by others, but nobody bought it then, and it’s clear from recent comments in this thread that nobody’s buying it now.
You’re caught bang to rights. Just admit it (I know you won’t).
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Chris. Post #129 was just a few weeks after the one you flagged, and this was way back in 2015! I accept that maybe the posts could have been clearer, but I was not really concentrating on a specific timespan until then. The 10 years clearly referred to broadband, and that is made perfectly clear in the very post you highlighted.
Whatever you believe, I would not have been so daft as to say the pay tv channels will more or less all be closed down in 10 years. If that's the way you and some others read it, I accept that, but it was not what I meant. I have said 20 years consistently since 2015 and you will not find any post from me that says differently.
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Originally Posted by jfman
It's still a linear broadcast, it's the method of delivery that's different.
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Well of course it is a linear broadcast. Nobody said it wasn't. And yes, it is the method of delivery that is different. I'm not sure what point you are making, since I think we are all aware of that.
We are essentially debating the ease of access to VOD material - v - scheduled tv channels.
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12-08-2019, 15:50
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
There's no need to be cheeky because Chris is mopping the floor with your incoherent argument.
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12-08-2019, 16:05
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by jfman
There's no need to be cheeky because Chris is mopping the floor with your incoherent argument.
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I wasn't being deliberately cheeky, just factual!
As for incoherent, now that's cheeky.
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12-08-2019, 16:30
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I wasn't being deliberately cheeky, just factual!
As for incoherent, now that's cheeky.
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Here's Amazon the great market disrupter going to bring cheap Premiership football from all, deep pockets and blowing Sky out the water. It's a full house in the bingo card all in one place.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...4&postcount=44
Now they didn't bid, the rights value fell (as predicted by Sky) but it'll all be different in 2022, with no explanation why?
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12-08-2019, 18:34
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by jfman
Here's Amazon the great market disrupter going to bring cheap Premiership football from all, deep pockets and blowing Sky out the water. It's a full house in the bingo card all in one place.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...4&postcount=44
Now they didn't bid, the rights value fell (as predicted by Sky) but it'll all be different in 2022, with no explanation why?
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It's strange that you seem to think that because something has not happened yet that it never will.
All of this has already been explained, jfman. Clearly, there's not much news around today.
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12-08-2019, 18:41
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Trollsplatter
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
The rules of CF:
Old Boy has only ever said things that later come true. If it didn’t come true, he never said it, even if he did.
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12-08-2019, 18:58
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by Chris
The rules of CF:
Old Boy has only ever said things that later come true. If it didn’t come true, he never said it, even if he did.
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You just need to read the posts. And read the words as they are. I hope that's not too much to ask.
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12-08-2019, 19:10
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
You just need to read the posts. And read the words as they are. I hope that's not too much to ask.
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Which many of us have done.
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
You just need to read the posts. And read the words as they are. I hope that's not too much to ask.
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Very much in clear English and fully understood as well.
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You just need to read the posts. And read the words as they are. I hope that's not too much to ask.
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l think its not too much to ask that you read your posts OB clearly and concisely without missing out the inconvenient bits.
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12-08-2019, 19:12
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
It's strange that you seem to think that because something has not happened yet that it never will.
All of this has already been explained, jfman. Clearly, there's not much news around today.
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If I were an Amazon shareholder I’d be furious, given how easy it is to turn a profit on £5bn of football rights, that they hadn’t even bid this time around. Not even a meagre “what Sky paid last time” bid, let alone a “blow them out the water one”.
If something hasn’t happened (and indeed, might never happen!) my main question would be what factors would have to change and when to make it happen.
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12-08-2019, 22:40
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by jfman
If I were an Amazon shareholder I’d be furious, given how easy it is to turn a profit on £5bn of football rights, that they hadn’t even bid this time around. Not even a meagre “what Sky paid last time” bid, let alone a “blow them out the water one”.
If something hasn’t happened (and indeed, might never happen!) my main question would be what factors would have to change and when to make it happen.
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The whole streamers winning the PL rights in the UK was bigger up by Scudamore (the then CEO of EPL) - presumably to try to scare Sky/BT to continue to substantially raise their bids (I suspect he got wind of their reluctance to do so and hyped up other interested parties to keep the rights going through the roof) this ploy obviously didn't work.
Yes, the streamers have 20 matches (all games from 2 midweek rounds in December) - minor package(s) no-one bid high enough for in the 1st round of bidding.
I have never seen a figure for how much Amazon paid, nor do I expect to as they pep rob ably signed a NDA to get them so cheaply.
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13-08-2019, 00:00
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I wasn't being deliberately cheeky, just factual!
As for incoherent, now that's cheeky.
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I can confirm, I have often been called incoherent.
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13-08-2019, 11:58
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
Now TV HD and the addition of Now TV to the BT platform have been suspended indefinitely.
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13-08-2019, 12:26
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Now TV HD and the addition of Now TV to the BT platform have been suspended indefinitely.
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Any source of that Richard?.
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13-08-2019, 13:22
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