28-04-2019, 11:56
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
It's up to EU countries to inspect imports, they can't outsource it to a third country which is what the UK would become.
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Does this mean that if (when) we leave the EU, the problem lands firmly in the lap of someone else?
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28-04-2019, 12:03
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
BREAKING: The Brexit Party surges in to first place for European Elections less than one month after launching.
European Parliament voting intention:
BREX: 28% (+5)
LAB: 22% (-)
CON: 13% (-4)
CHUK: 10% (+2)
GRN: 10% (-)
LDEM: 7% (-2)
UKIP 5% (-1)
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@YouGov
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UK has not changed it's mind on leaving the corrupted EU.
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Really ? Only 46% there for Con/Brexit/UKIP. Anyway as you keep saying polls are pointless, so are these elections tbh.
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28-04-2019, 13:44
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#1833
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
So a"fascist" called an Mp a Nazi and that's the definition of fascism ? or is that not the example you had in mind?
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It wasn't just one situation, it was several.
Do you think the public are being bullied?
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Originally Posted by Carth
Does this mean that if (when) we leave the EU, the problem lands firmly in the lap of someone else?
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I suspect it will get checked twice, once in the UK then once in the next country it goes to. This will obviously up costs.
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth
You're confusing me Mick, I thought you said opinion polls didn't matter and the only poll that mattered was the referendum in 2016? So why are you posting the above poll
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Not advocating a second referendum, but if people become better informed then they are entitled to change their opinions.
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28-04-2019, 16:03
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
It wasn't just one situation, it was several.
Do you think the public are being bullied?
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I suspect it will get checked twice, once in the UK then once in the next country it goes to. This will obviously up costs.
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Not advocating a second referendum, but if people become better informed then they are entitled to change their opinions.
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The public are being bullied by the obstruction of the Remain side, constantly insisting "we are not going to respect your choice, you have to bow down and submit to us". Just as in NI, any attack by the IRA is used to justify getting the Protestants/Unionists to surrender to the IRA/Sinn Fein/Catholics.
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28-04-2019, 16:40
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by nomadking
The public are being bullied by the obstruction of the Remain side, constantly insisting "we are not going to respect your choice, you have to bow down and submit to us". Just as in NI, any attack by the IRA is used to justify getting the Protestants/Unionists to surrender to the IRA/Sinn Fein/Catholics.
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”bullies"
You are equating disagreement with terrorist attacks.
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28-04-2019, 16:59
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
”bullies"
You are equating disagreement with terrorist attacks.
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Yet another attack by the IRA and it is used to justify this.
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Sinn Féin collapsed the coalition government in January 2017 in protest at the DUP's handling of a green energy scandal.
Since then, several rounds of talks have failed, with the two parties failing to find a compromise on a number of outstanding issues including Irish language rights and the legalisation of same-sex marriage.
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Every time it happens and it is NOT Sinn Fein/IRA/Catholics that have to compromise or concede. Everything has to be done for the (non-existent) peace process. Consider the following situation, you are attacked and the attacker says "hand over your money" or I'll attack you again. You hand over your money. Have you handed it over willingly or under threat of further violence?
Have the Remain side done the slightest thing to recognise the referendum result? They have gone out of their way to subvert it. They are BULLYING people with the threat of making things difficult INDEFINITELY unless everybody gives in to them.
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28-04-2019, 17:07
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Re: Brexit
Debate is NOT bullying.
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28-04-2019, 17:26
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by nomadking
Yet another attack by the IRA and it is used to justify this.
Every time it happens and it is NOT Sinn Fein/IRA/Catholics that have to compromise or concede. Everything has to be done for the (non-existent) peace process. Consider the following situation, you are attacked and the attacker says "hand over your money" or I'll attack you again. You hand over your money. Have you handed it over willingly or under threat of further violence?
Have the Remain side done the slightest thing to recognise the referendum result? They have gone out of their way to subvert it. They are BULLYING people with the threat of making things difficult INDEFINITELY unless everybody gives in to them.
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Harsh words ≠ terrorism.
Nice try...
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
Debate is NOT bullying.
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But if you don’t give in to all he wants and agree with him, you’re bullying him...
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28-04-2019, 17:29
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
It wasn't just one situation, it was several.
Do you think the public are being bullied?
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I suspect it will get checked twice, once in the UK then once in the next country it goes to. This will obviously up costs.
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Not advocating a second referendum, but if people become better informed then they are entitled to change their opinions.
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If the EU elections go ahead, you will soon see that people have not changed their minds. The Brexit Party will surprise a lot of remainers, who would like to think that people now want to stay in the EU.
There will not need to be another referendum if the Brexit Party has the largest share of the vote, which seems rather likely now, don't you agree, Andrew?.
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28-04-2019, 17:41
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
Debate is NOT bullying.
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So all they've done is debate? If only that was remotely true. Brexit would have already happened if it was.
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28-04-2019, 17:45
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by nomadking
So all they've done is debate? If only that was remotely true. Brexit would have already happened if it was.
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Debating is part of being in a democracy whether one disagrees with it or not.
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28-04-2019, 18:02
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by denphone
Debating is part of being in a democracy whether one disagrees with it or not.
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They've done MORE than debate. They've obstructed. Can you imagine what would happen if the Scottish eventually said "Yes" to independence and the same tactics were used?
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28-04-2019, 18:13
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth
You're confusing me Mick, I thought you said opinion polls didn't matter and the only poll that mattered was the referendum in 2016? So why are you posting the above poll
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Um - because the referendum result still reflects the fact that people have not changed their mind on leaving the corrupted EU. I might not believe them most of the time, others have said no such thing.
One thing is certain, those silly ChUKer's in the "Change UK, The Independent Group, how many names can I call this group in one sentence" have an absolutely appalling campaign/PR team.
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28-04-2019, 18:29
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
If the EU elections go ahead, you will soon see that people have not changed their minds. The Brexit Party will surprise a lot of remainers, who would like to think that people now want to stay in the EU.
There will not need to be another referendum if the Brexit Party has the largest share of the vote, which seems rather likely now, don't you agree, Andrew?.
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I’ll bet my last euro that the elections will go ahead.
Also, your comment ‘seems rather likely now’ I’m sure the politicians were using similar language and logic ahead of the original referendum result. Look what happened then!
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28-04-2019, 19:10
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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I call BS on this, if my car park can tell me I left with out paying (There are no barriers it's all done by ANPR, and the machine said I didn't need to pay after entering my reg, then failed to give me a receipt) and has my details illegally supplied by the DVLA to the car park, then goverments can
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