Brexit (Old)

I think a lot of people haven’t realised that yet. Parliament gave authorisation for the government to trigger Art.50, which is a time-limited process with a pre-determined default conclusion, i.e. the member state leaves the EU. That is the process and the outcome Parliament has agreed to already. If there is no proposed deal with the EU then there is nothing more for it to vote on. ‘No deal’ is far likelier than many think.

I think the most likely outcome is 'no deal' but there will be a 'transition period' where we're effectively in the EU while talks continue.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Chris

I think a lot of people haven’t realised that yet. Parliament gave authorisation for the government to trigger Art.50, which is a time-limited process with a pre-determined default conclusion, i.e. the member state leaves the EU. That is the process and the outcome Parliament has agreed to already. If there is no proposed deal with the EU then there is nothing more for it to vote on. ‘No deal’ is far likelier than many think.

I did mention this almost a week ago even quoting the MP who tabled the amendment but it went straight over their heads.
Ostriches come to mind.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=1011

I also think Damien is correct.

Good News Everyone!


https://www.ft.com/content/f75ad220-...1-e5de165fa619

Sterling shot higher on Wednesday after the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier indicated that he was close to offering the UK a deal.

“We are prepared to offer a partnership with Britain such as has never been with any other third country,” Mr Barnier was quoted by Reuters as saying.

[Sephiroth]

Someone is bound to call it a poison chalice. Can’t be good news till we know what the offer is.

50% off macarons for 12 months and a free Pilsner for everyone over 18.

[Sephiroth]

I would prefer 80% off Macron, 60% off Merkel, 100% off Juncker, 500% off Selmayr and zero tariff on sour pickled cucumbers.

Obviously we need to play hardball and negotiate an on-going discount for the European beers. I know some Brexiters will come in here and say we can get new beers from America but personally I prefer alcohol in mine so that's no good.

Originally Posted by pip08456

I did mention this almost a week ago even quoting the MP who tabled the amendment but it went straight over their heads.
Ostriches come to mind.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=1011

I also think Damien is correct.

Indeed you did, though I was thinking more of people in general, than CF commenters particularly. I also think Damien is right, or at least I did until he also posted the comments Barnier has just made.

No Deal poses a massive risk to the EU precisely because there is no way for the EU’s allies in our own Parliament to stop it. Parliament ends up getting its “meaningful say” on whatever is eventually agreed, about 2 years after we have left the EU. Seeing as the continuity remainers are now barely concealing the fact that their aim, by any available means, is to stop Brexit happening at all, holding a vote after we’ve already left is no use. They might vote down the deal and that might bring down the government, but it isn’t going to result in a new referendum on staying in. The horse will have bolted.

In order to precipitate a crisis, there must be a deal to be voted on before next March. Barnier is well aware of this. That ultimately is what still makes Some Sort of Deal more likely than No Deal.

[Sephiroth]

So May has been wilier than for credit given.

[1andrew1]

Theresa May could be defeated in Parliament by David Davis's promise to vote against her proposals

The UK’s former Brexit secretary David Davis has promised to vote against Theresa May’s Brexit proposal, raising the prospect that the prime minister could be defeated in parliament later this year.

Mr Davis told the BBC on Sunday that the so-called Chequers proposal, over which he resigned in July, was “almost worse than being in” the EU. He later went even further, saying the plan was “worse than the [UK’s] existing deal”.

https://www.ft.com/content/4a169c68-...4-6f049d06439c

[pip08456]

So who would expect Davis to vote for a deal he resigned over?

Brexit news must be slow ATM.

It's noticeable that the remainers on this thread have been quiet for days since it was pointed out to them that Parliament don't get to vote on a no deal scenario.

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by Damien

Obviously we need to play hardball and negotiate an on-going discount for the European beers. I know some Brexiters will come in here and say we can get new beers from America but personally I prefer alcohol in mine so that's no good.

US beer has been linked to Gnat urine, only weaker.

Their so called whiskey is just as bad.

We don't need Euro beers as we have enough small batch beer makers in the UK and you should find one you like.

[Sephiroth]

Please recommend me a dry beer like Asahi or Peroni so that I can support your position.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Please recommend me a dry beer like Asahi or Peroni so that I can support your position.

Morrison's own brand premium strength lager. Can't go wrong