10-07-2018, 15:46
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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And "accidentally" bump into Nigel.
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And Assange...
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10-07-2018, 16:12
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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BREAKING: U.S President Donald Trump weighs in on Boris resignation on the White House lawn: 'The UK certainly have a lot of things going on. Boris Johnson is a friend of mine. He has been very nice to me. Very supportive. Maybe we'll speak to him when I get over there. I like Boris Johnson. I've always liked him.'
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BREAKING: Trump's an Idiot (sorry, old news...). He probably just likes Bozza's hair do.
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10-07-2018, 17:13
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
Two Tory party vice chairs quit over Chequers plan.
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Two of Tory vice chairs, Ben Bradley and Maria Caulfield, are quitting in protest at Chequers plan
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44785797
https://www.ft.com/content/05df6226-...d-73e3d454535d
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10-07-2018, 20:03
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
I suppose, now that Boris, David, et al are liberated from the shackles of Theresa May's cabinet, they are now free to join cabinets around the world that are crying out for them to join their cabinets?
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10-07-2018, 20:20
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
Boris Johnson lied about EU safety regulation in his resignation letter
https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...gnation-letter
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10-07-2018, 21:25
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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Just carrying on the theme of his Leave campaign. No surprises here ...
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10-07-2018, 21:27
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And here we go conveniently forgetting the Remain camp lied as well....
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10-07-2018, 21:32
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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And here we go conveniently forgetting the Remain camp lied as well....
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yes but Boris king liar
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10-07-2018, 21:41
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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And here we go conveniently forgetting the Remain camp lied as well....
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You conveniently forget that the Remain camp was selling what was reality i.e. what you have now, tangible, real and quantifiable. The Leave campaign was selling what could be. BIG difference: one side was saying stay with what you see, the other was saying trust us and we will give you paradise.
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10-07-2018, 21:48
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You conveniently forget that the Remain camp was selling what was reality i.e. what you have now, tangible, real and quantifiable. The Leave campaign was selling what could be. BIG difference: one side was saying stay with what you see, the other was saying trust us and we will give you paradise.
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I conveniently forget nothing. The Remain camp did not sell reality at all - there was no WW 3, there was no emergency budget on a leave result - there was no recession, so pray tell what reality they were selling?
Because it never came to be because it was project fear from the very beginning and we all know it was pure fiction as time went on.
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yes but Boris king liar
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Gee wizz - there are NO other politicians that lie ?
What the hell is this fixation on Boris... ?
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10-07-2018, 21:55
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Because it never came to be because it was project fear from the very beginning and we all know it was pure fiction as time went on.
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Not entirely. The difficulty of NI and obtaining a trade deal were warnings from Remain and consider that most of the economic consequences were for when we leave which hasn't yet happened.
They did however say there would be an immediate economic hit because confidence would collapse and that was not true. Nor was the emergency budget. At the same we have gone from one of the fastest growing main economies to one of the slowest.
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10-07-2018, 22:19
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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I conveniently forget nothing. The Remain camp did not sell reality at all - there was no WW 3, there was no emergency budget on a leave result - there was no recession, so pray tell what reality they were selling?
Because it never came to be because it was project fear from the very beginning and we all know it was pure fiction as time went on.
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Gee wizz - there are NO other politicians that lie ?
What the hell is this fixation on Boris... ?
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Reality check: Remain was selling the status quo. yes, it is all around you, it is the "now", or was. They also, badly, tried to explain that the Leave campaign was based on faith, fiction and lies.
Project Fear is now just a comfort blanket that is used to hide behind. The naked truth that is now revealed is that Leave had no plan. It had no strategy, no detailed workings of how a country, a complex and connected entity can transition from 40 years of integration to an autonomous trading unit with no loss of national and individual wealth.
This is the real crime here. The 37% dragged the rest of us over this cliff with no parachute. Why the hell do you think we're pissed off?
Why are we fixated with Boris, are you really asking this in all seriousness? He was the leader of the Leave campaign ..the chief snake oil salesman.
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10-07-2018, 23:21
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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The naked truth that is now revealed is that Leave had no plan.
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I think you'll find that the leave plan worked very well, we voted to leave.
On the other hand, remain (the Government) were so confident that it wouldn't happen that they didn't bother asking themselves "oh, what will we do if we lose the vote?"
. . . and stop blaming the '37%' that voted leave, if the remain voters weren't so complacent in believing it was 'in the bag' more would have gone out and and voted . . .
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11-07-2018, 00:02
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I think you'll find that the leave plan worked very well, we voted to leave.
On the other hand, remain (the Government) were so confident that it wouldn't happen that they didn't bother asking themselves "oh, what will we do if we lose the vote?"
. . . and stop blaming the '37%' that voted leave, if the remain voters weren't so complacent in believing it was 'in the bag' more would have gone out and and voted . . .
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nothing but lies was there only plan
Vote Leave director admits they won because they lied to the public
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...-public/08/02/
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11-07-2018, 00:22
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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I think you'll find that the leave plan worked very well, we voted to leave.
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I think you and Dave are arguing about different things amd are both correct.
The plan to get a leave vote succeeded so the plan worked well, However, there was no plan to implement it if Leave won. So Dave is correct there.
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That's just plain bizarre.
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