VOD : Netflix/Streaming Services

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

I’d subscribe. I’m a rational consumer in the marketplace.

What I don’t see, and evidently nor do they by recent reporting, is how they bid more and reduce costs to the end user.

Well, we’ve been on that ride before, but you choose to ignore those ideas.

Excuse me if I say that I have no wish to go around yet again.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, we’ve been on that ride before, but you choose to ignore those ideas.

Excuse me if I say that I have no wish to go around yet again.

Upselling tat? I think Prime has the levels of penetration that £5bn is a lot to invest to sell more tat.

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by jfman

Upselling tat? I think Prime has the levels of penetration that £5bn is a lot to invest to sell more tat.

If and it is a huge if Amazon bid for more football rights there'd be two outcomes.
Prime would raise in price quite a lot or 2 a football addon at a extra charge would be launched, Amazon simply can not continue to absorb costs.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

If and it is a huge if Amazon bid for more football rights there'd be two outcomes.
Prime would raise in price quite a lot or 2 a football addon at a extra charge would be launched, Amazon simply can not continue to absorb costs.

It’s definitely a £30 a month add on for the few million who would subscribe.

[ozsat]

If Amazon got big rights - I would expect the EPL to be an add-on for Prime customers.

Maybe £7.99pm Prime and £24.99pm EPL add-on - or £29.99pm for non-Prime customers.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

If and it is a huge if Amazon bid for more football rights there'd be two outcomes.
Prime would raise in price quite a lot or 2 a football addon at a extra charge would be launched, Amazon simply can not continue to absorb costs.

It would certainly be a football add-on. They could also add tiers with a more limited selection of matches for a cheaper price to attract more punters.

[jfman]

It's going to be ridiculously expensive for sports fans, that's what it's going to be. A premiership add on at greater cost than the full Sky Sports add on for Now TV?

I can't see sports fans falling over themselves to pay another £25 a month. Many view the rights as fragmented enough needing Sky and BT without a third service with a sizable proportion of the games.

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by ozsat

If Amazon got big rights - I would expect the EPL to be an add-on for Prime customers.

Maybe £7.99pm Prime and £24.99pm EPL add-on - or £29.99pm for non-Prime customers.

Amazon don't like people taking their services without them having prime so most likely would only be for prime customers.

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Originally Posted by jfman

It's going to be ridiculously expensive for sports fans, that's what it's going to be. A premiership add on at greater cost than the full Sky Sports add on for Now TV?

I can't see sports fans falling over themselves to pay another £25 a month. Many view the rights as fragmented enough needing Sky and BT without a third service with a sizable proportion of the games.

Eventually there will come a breaking point and people will say enough is enough.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

Eventually there will come a breaking point and people will say enough is enough.

That should've happened years ago.

[Mad Max]

Slightly off-topic, I got an email from Now TV a couple of days ago offering me another six months on the entertainment package for a whopping £1.60 per month, not too bad for some decent telly on offer.

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by jfman

It's going to be ridiculously expensive for sports fans, that's what it's going to be. A premiership add on at greater cost than the full Sky Sports add on for Now TV?

I can't see sports fans falling over themselves to pay another £25 a month. Many view the rights as fragmented enough needing Sky and BT without a third service with a sizable proportion of the games.

I read an article this week that stated despite Sky/BT looking to pay no more than last time/ reduce payments, Amazon would not be bidding for any of the main EPL Rights packages.

I would see the status quo being maintained - unless the EPL decide to have a go at streaming matches themselves.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

It's going to be ridiculously expensive for sports fans, that's what it's going to be. A premiership add on at greater cost than the full Sky Sports add on for Now TV?

I can't see sports fans falling over themselves to pay another £25 a month. Many view the rights as fragmented enough needing Sky and BT without a third service with a sizable proportion of the games.

If football fans no longer had football on Sky, they would simply subscribe to Amazon football instead of Sky Sports. Same if Amazon won the contract from BT, subscribers would simply switch. It’s not rocket science. Football fans will follow the football!

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

If football fans no longer had football on Sky, they would simply subscribe to Amazon football instead of Sky Sports. Same if Amazon won the contract from BT, subscribers would simply switch. It’s not rocket science. Football fans will follow the football!

If it were that easy we wouldn't have a graveyard of Sky-wannabes.

It's not as straightforward as they will "all switch". BT of course have their wholesale deal with Virgin Media, and subsidise from their telephony/broadband products.

Sports fans who enjoy some football, some golf, formula one, NFL, suddenly find themselves having to buy additional products.

They do not have infinite money - for some eventually choices have to be made.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

If it were that easy we wouldn't have a graveyard of Sky-wannabes.

It's not as straightforward as they will "all switch". BT of course have their wholesale deal with Virgin Media, and subsidise from their telephony/broadband products.

Sports fans who enjoy some football, some golf, formula one, NFL, suddenly find themselves having to buy additional products.

They do not have infinite money - for some eventually choices have to be made.

I don’t think you can compare the providers of sports channels with streaming services. Streamers of sports events do not need to bother about filling their schedules! That’s one cost out of the way for a start.

Football fans have shown very clearly that they are prepared to pay a lot for football. Why would they not switch en masse if their usual provider lost the rights?

As for the problem facing the fans of other sports as well are concerned, I don’t disagree, but of course Sky would charge less for what remained, wouldn’t they?

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I don’t think you can compare the providers of sports channels with streaming services. Streamers of sports events do not need to bother about filling their schedules! That’s one cost out of the way for a start.

Football fans have shown very clearly that they are prepared to pay a lot for football. Why would they not switch en masse if their usual provider lost the rights?

As for the problem facing the fans of other sports as well are concerned, I don’t disagree, but of course Sky would charge less for what remained, wouldn’t they?

I doubt they would - they have lists rights to sports in the past few years (premiership rugby union, la liga football to name but 2) but the normal cost to the customer has never gone down.