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Old 13-07-2019, 23:16   #46
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

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The public interest was to hear what someone close to the US administration thought about Trump in an unfiltered way! Trump would have you believe the administration is a well oiled machine! This shows ( if we didn’t know it already) that it isn’t! Throwing light into shade is in the public interest!
If you are happy with the public interest being served rather than the national interest then fair enough, let's just scrap the official secrets act and no longer have the foreign office receive truthful report from ambassadors to the countries we deal with.
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Old 13-07-2019, 23:32   #47
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

I didnt say i was more happy with it. I merely pointed out that it was in the 'public interest but this argument is just gas lighting. The real issue is Johnson not backing him and Trump getting his way.
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

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If the leak was in the public interest there would be no problem.
Mobes is right. If BoJo had been supportive of the ambassador on the ITV debate, he would probably have remained in place.
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Old 14-07-2019, 00:04   #49
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

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The public interest was to hear what someone close to the US administration thought about Trump in an unfiltered way! Trump would have you believe the administration is a well oiled machine! This shows ( if we didn’t know it already) that it isn’t! Throwing light into shade is in the public interest!
It’s not in the public, or nations, interest if it damages relations with our closest and most powerful ally.
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Old 14-07-2019, 00:05   #50
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Mobes is right. If BoJo had been supportive of the ambassador on the ITV debate, he would probably have remained in place.
I doubt it very much. Following the leak he became person non grata at the White House.

It was due to the leak his position became untenable and not just with the White House.
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Old 14-07-2019, 00:14   #51
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

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Mobes is right. If BoJo had been supportive of the ambassador on the ITV debate, he would probably have remained in place.
Until the end of the year when he was leaving anyway?
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I didnt say i was more happy with it. I merely pointed out that it was in the 'public interest but this argument is just gas lighting. The real issue is Johnson not backing him and Trump getting his way.
This is the real point here. Trump will think he now has the upper hand: he said to the UK "jump", and we said "how high?" The UK is now the vassal state in this relationship .. enjoy ..

Chlorinated chicken anyone?
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Until the end of the year when he was leaving anyway?
Way to go missing the point lol
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

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Way to go missing the point lol
Why did he send an email containing those flippant opinions?

Who did he send it to?

For someone supposedly a top ambassador he perhaps should have kept his facebook thoughts to himself.

Having said that don't rule out him having leaked it himself........
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

A) the point of those confidential memos is to give our Govt unfiltered views about the relative countries government . The US ambassador would send similar memos.
B) He was hacked and or leaked.
C) Try and keep up.
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A) the point of those confidential memos is to give our Govt unfiltered views about the relative countries government . The US ambassador would send similar memos.
B) He was hacked and or leaked.
C) Try and keep up.
Surely you mean the Public Interest memos?
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

Things can be both confidential AND in the public interest...nice try though
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

The suspect behind the leak of confidential memos from Britain’s Washington ambassador has been identified, the Sunday Times newspaper has reported.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ntified-report

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“They think they know who did the leaking,” an unnamed government source told the paper. “It’s now a case of building a case that will stand up in court. It was someone with access to historical files. They went in and grabbed a range of material. It was quite crude.”
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The suspect behind the leak of confidential memos from Britain’s Washington ambassador has been identified, the Sunday Times newspaper has reported.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ntified-report
For those who may not be aware of the latest Brexit couple.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/950231...-leak-scandal/
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For those who may not be aware of the latest Brexit couple.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/950231...-leak-scandal/
The link does not work Angua.
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