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denphone · 18-09-2019, 17:15

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

No, I don't think that. Everyone has different likes/dislikes. What I find funny is posts which say the UKTV channels and archive material are extremely popular and the next minute that Britbox will fail because there will be too much archive material on it.

Now, that is what I call contradictory!

Britbox will fail as one its too little too late , secondly people won't pay for something they are already paying for and three it is like a Pygmy in a land of giants and will struggle to survive more then a year as it gets squashed by the significantly more powerful players.

pip08456 · 18-09-2019, 17:24

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Originally Posted by denphone

Britbox will fail as one its too little too late , secondly people won't pay for something they are already paying for and three it is like a Pygmy in a land of giants and will struggle to survive more then a year as it gets squashed by the significantly more powerful players.

Although I agree with OB's point I also agree that Britbox is too little too late.

jfman · 18-09-2019, 17:36

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Originally Posted by pip08456

I don't think so as Disney is the brand awareness name. You however will disagree as usual.

A TV series in it’s own right can have brand awareness - Friends being one. A significant portion of its viewers will be oblivious to what network first aired it in the US.

I will disagree because your point defies logic. It’s like saying people will go out and buy tape Walkmans because they had brand awareness in the 80s.

pip08456 · 18-09-2019, 17:57

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Originally Posted by jfman

A TV series in it’s own right can have brand awareness - Friends being one. A significant portion of its viewers will be oblivious to what network first aired it in the US.

I will disagree because your point defies logic. It’s like saying people will go out and buy tape Walkmans because they had brand awareness in the 80s.

Feel free to disagree all you want. Disney was there long before Walkmans and has continued long after,the same goes for Friends.

denphone · 18-09-2019, 18:01

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Feel free to disagree all you want. Disney was there long before Walkmans and has continued long after,the same goes for Friends.

Indeed Disney have been there for near on 100 years.

jfman · 18-09-2019, 18:01

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Feel free to disagree all you want. Disney was there long before Walkmans and has continued long after,the same goes for Friends.

That doesn’t begin even address my point.

A TV series in 2021 on a streaming platform will have much lower reach and awareness, and thus value in a back catalogue than content widely available on a range of platforms now. To dispute this disputes reality, but that’s not new in this thread!

pip08456 · 18-09-2019, 18:05

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Originally Posted by jfman

That doesn’t begin even address my point.

A TV series in 2021 on a streaming platform will have much lower reach and awareness, and thus value in a back catalogue than content widely available on a range of platforms now. To dispute this disputes reality, but that’s not new in this thread!

So explain to me why Marvel series pick-ups have stopped on Netflix and they will lose the back catalogue in 2yrs.

OLD BOY · 18-09-2019, 18:05

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Originally Posted by denphone

Britbox will fail as one its too little too late , secondly people won't pay for something they are already paying for and three it is like a Pygmy in a land of giants and will struggle to survive more then a year as it gets squashed by the significantly more powerful players.

Lots of assumptions there, Den. I think you must have learned by now that there is a continuing appetite for archive material and there is no sign of that abating. If BBC and ITV recall all their old stuff from Netflix and put it on Britbox, where do you think the archive lovers will go? Add to that the demise of the UKTV channels, ITV3 and ITV4, which probably is not as far away as you think, that part of the audience will have nowhere else to go.

Your prediction for Britbox will turn out to be way off beam as it will ultimately flourish and its popularity will surprise you.

jfman · 18-09-2019, 18:07

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Originally Posted by pip08456

So explain to me why Marvel series pick-ups have stopped on Netflix and they will lose the back catalogue in 2yrs.

Can you explain how it links to my point?

OLD BOY · 18-09-2019, 18:09

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Although I agree with OB's point I also agree that Britbox is too little too late.

I don't think that it is too late as timing is irrelevant. Netflix and Prime will not be established competitors in terms of old material if it transfers to Britbox. Those who subscribe for that reason will follow the material. The two leading streamers will be appealing to a different audience.

denphone · 18-09-2019, 18:17

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Lots of assumptions there, Den. I think you must have learned by now that there is a continuing appetite for archive material and there is no sign of that abating. If BBC and ITV recall all their old stuff from Netflix and put it on Britbox, where do you think the archive lovers will go? Add to that the demise of the UKTV channels, ITV3 and ITV4, which probably is not as far away as you think, that part of the audience will have nowhere else to go.

Another very bold statement which like many of the others does not stand up to scrutiny.

pip08456 · 18-09-2019, 18:17

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Originally Posted by jfman

Can you explain how it links to my point?

Marvel was an example regarding back catalogue. It's being withdrawn from netflix and elsewhere and will only be available via Disney+ once all the licenses run out.

Back catalogues willnot be available over a number of sources in the future.

denphone · 18-09-2019, 18:19

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Your prediction for Britbox will turn out to be way off beam as it will ultimately flourish and its popularity will surprise you.

Its not just my prediction as its the predictions of most of those who are knowledgeable experts in those markets.

pip08456 · 18-09-2019, 18:19

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I don't think that it is too late as timing is irrelevant. Netflix and Prime will not be established competitors in terms of old material if it transfers to Britbox. Those who subscribe for that reason will follow the material. The two leading streamers will be appealing to a different audience.

OK perhaps, I'm just thinking of they future and which streamers people will be using.

I accept being wrong.

jfman · 18-09-2019, 18:20

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Marvel was a point regarding back catalogue. It's being withdrawn from netflix and elsewhere and will only be available via Disney+ once all the licenses run out.

Back catalogues willnot be available over a number of sources in the future.

I was talking about developing a future “back catalogue” - the value of content today in five, ten, fifteen years.

A streamer is unlikely to develop series with a huge global following like Friends due to reduced reach.