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Old 18-01-2020, 18:48   #2116
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What UK working practices gave us advantages, please?

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I'd rather turn that on its head and show what's wrong with the WTD. Of course there'll be those who prefer to pick out the good bits and ignore the anti-democratic & nanny state aspects. To me, the nanny state aspects and appeasement of France put the legislation beyond the pale; the unions would have negotiated much of the good stuff (e.g. 4 weeks' paid holidays) into UK law. We didn't need legislation that really suited France.
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Old 18-01-2020, 19:28   #2117
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here we go again, he’s a Brexiteer, so according to your warped findings, he has to be so bad. Change the record FFS.

For the record. He got a far more interesting CV, than you will ever have.

But nonetheless. The above is a typical pathetic response from a hardline Remainer and chief moaner, who cannot accept their side lost, SEVERAL times!
Mark Francois isn't exactly a great advert for a Brexiter though. He is an attention seeking Walter Mitty character. There are far more respectable, intelligent and admirable Brexit supporters than he. There is a reason he is always on television all the time, it's because he is willing to parrot whatever nonsense the producers of a show want so long as he gets publicity.

And once again to make it clear this isn't true of Brexit supporters as a whole. I want to make it 100% clear this is about Mark Francois specifically. Not you or anyone else on here, not Gove or Johnson, not Vote Leave or Brexit voters. It's him specifically I think is a moron.
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Old 18-01-2020, 19:43   #2118
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Mark Francois isn't exactly a great advert for a Brexiter though. He is an attention seeking Walter Mitty character. There are far more respectable, intelligent and admirable Brexit supporters than he. There is a reason he is always on television all the time, it's because he is willing to parrot whatever nonsense the producers of a show want so long as he gets publicity.

And once again to make it clear this isn't true of Brexit supporters as a whole. I want to make it 100% clear this is about Mark Francois specifically. Not you or anyone else on here, not Gove or Johnson, not Vote Leave or Brexit voters. It's him specifically I think is a moron.
Agreed. I rate Farage (as I now await the onslaught).
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Big ben bonging would just drown out the whimpering and moaning, i shall celebrate at home with a few discrete fireworks [big buggers]and a few glasses of lager.


a bit of dancing.

some cheering.
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Big ben bonging would just drown out the whimpering and moaning, i shall celebrate at home with a few discrete fireworks [big buggers]and a few glasses of lager.


a bit of dancing.

some cheering.
Who is whimpering and moaning as l wish we could get out of this winners and losers mentality in this country as l just don't think given the deep divisions in this country that any celebratory triumphalism is not the road that we should be going down.
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Who is whimpering and moaning as l wish we could get out of this winners and losers mentality in this country as l just don't think given the deep divisions in this country that any celebratory triumphalism is not the road that we should be going down.
I expect a lot of whimpering and moaning on the day,i feel everyone should be celebrating on the 31st as we are all leavers now,lets all celebrate this momentous day together.
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I expect a lot of whimpering and moaning on the day,i feel everyone should be celebrating on the 31st as we are all leavers now,lets all celebrate this momentous day together.
Far more momentous for our family is my brother turns 50 during that week.
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Old 18-01-2020, 21:22   #2123
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I expect a lot of whimpering and moaning on the day,i feel everyone should be celebrating on the 31st as we are all leavers now,lets all celebrate this momentous day together.
To me, 31 January doesn't alter things much, except we'll lose our political influence in Europe. More noteworthy will be when we leave in full, which allegedly is the end of the year.
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What UK working practices gave us advantages, please?
https://infacts.org/briefings/working-time-directive/

I'd rather turn that on its head and show what's wrong with the WTD. Of course there'll be those who prefer to pick out the good bits and ignore the anti-democratic & nanny state aspects. To me, the nanny state aspects and appeasement of France put the legislation beyond the pale; the unions would have negotiated much of the good stuff (e.g. 4 weeks' paid holidays) into UK law. We didn't need legislation that really suited France.
Sorry, I couldn’t see anything in that article that provided answers to my question...

Could you highlight/quote the part that did, please?
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I turned your question on its head because my position sits in the camp that France in particular wanted to shackle us to their un-competitive working practices.
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I turned your question on its head because my position sits in the camp that France in particular wanted to shackle us to their un-competitive working practices.
Looks like they've succeeded with all the red tape that will be imposed on British industry next year.
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Looks like they've succeeded with all the red tape that will be imposed on British industry next year.
British Industry? What rock are they hiding under?
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Agreed. I rate Farage (as I now await the onslaught).
I do to, he makes it easy to follow his message and has a likeability lacking in so many politicians plus unlike bozo he actually believed in what he was peddling

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I expect a lot of whimpering and moaning on the day,i feel everyone should be celebrating on the 31st as we are all leavers now,lets all celebrate this momentous day together.
Really, I expect for the vast majority of us it'll just be another day. Lets hope the lack of a bong isn't an omenfor brexit itself though. I also hope your fireworks don't turn out to be a damp squib

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I turned your question on its head because my position sits in the camp that France in particular wanted to shackle us to their un-competitive working practices.
Yes release us so we can be more competitive with those other countries where workers often find suicide is more preferable than returning to work after lunch and make that woman who gave birth in Amazon's toilets the norm not the exception. Tbh though the rights I think they'll go after aren't the ones that make us uncompetitive it'll be the ones that make it harder to discriminate against us or terminate our employment that go and I'm prepared to put money on it and when that comes to pass I'd be grateful if someone could explain why or how that's made us more competitive
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I do to, he makes it easy to follow his message and has a likeability lacking in so many politicians plus unlike bozo he actually believed in what he was peddling



Really, I expect for the vast majority of us it'll just be another day. Lets hope the lack of a bong isn't an omenfor brexit itself though. I also hope your fireworks don't turn out to be a damp squib



Yes release us so we can be more competitive with those other countries where workers often find suicide is more preferable than returning to work after lunch and make that woman who gave birth in Amazon's toilets the norm not the exception. Tbh though the rights I think they'll go after aren't the ones that make us uncompetitive it'll be the ones that make it harder to discriminate against us or terminate our employment that go and I'm prepared to put money on it and when that comes to pass I'd be grateful if someone could explain why or how that's made us more competitive
The 31st is an excellent opportunity not only to celebrate but to heal the rift over a few banger's and lots of beer.
we leavers are ready to come together with our remainer friends to build a great future.
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The 31st is an excellent opportunity not only to celebrate but to heal the rift over a few banger's and lots of beer.
we leavers are ready to come together with our remainer friends to build a great future.
But not much is really happening on the 31st. We'll still be paying into the EU, following EU rules on 1st Feb, just we'll lose voting rights and influence. That might continue for years.

It is a Friday and granted, that is an excuse for beer, but that's the only reason !
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