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Old 07-10-2021, 09:13   #181
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Re: Energy companies collapse

I can't disagree with Lord Ridley here.

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Lord Ridley says there would be no energy price hike crisis if fracking had not been banned in the UK.

"The reason we're in this mess in this country is because of climate policies. Those policies were to not develop shale gas."
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Old 07-10-2021, 14:26   #182
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Old 07-10-2021, 14:53   #183
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Old 07-10-2021, 22:24   #184
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Re: Energy companies collapse

Well I decided to be curious, and get a quote from ESB (who I left not long ago).

It was over £100 more than Bulb.

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Based on your monthly usage in kWh, your current supplier is £101.29 cheaper. But we can guarantee you the kind of service you can only get from a company that’s been providing electricity and gas for over 90 years, together with long term value.
I had to smile at their BS though, their service wasnt that good when I had to use it (twice).
and as for "Long Term Value" ? LOL, How exactly is £1200+ extra of any value at all (long or short).
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Old 11-10-2021, 11:04   #185
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Re: Energy companies collapse

No Minister! For those who like their popcorn moments, there's been some interesting contradictory information. A Treasury source then took the unusual step denying a comment made by the Business Secretary that possible support for businesses was even being discussed and said it was not the first time he had made stuff up!

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Minister denies Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng lied about potential further support for firms amid energy crisis

"Of course not," says Home Office minister Damian Hinds when asked if Kwasi Kwarteng had lied when he made the claim about his team being in discussions with the Treasury, something that was swiftly denied by that department...

Mr Kwarteng made the claim in an interview with Trevor Phillips on Sunday, in which he also said he is "convinced" the UK will not suffer gas shortages in the coming months - and insisted that a price cap on consumers' energy bills "will not be moved" this winter.

Mr Kwarteng added that he was "speaking constantly" with industry on their energy needs and pricing and was "engaging" with the Treasury on the issue.

"What I'm very clear about is we need to help them get through this situation - it's a difficult situation, gas prices, electricity prices are at very high levels right across the world and of course I'm speaking to government colleagues, particularly in the Treasury, to try and see a way through this."

But a Treasury source told Sky News on Sunday they are "not involved in any talks" and added that it was not the first time Mr Kwarteng "has made things up in interviews".

Labour's shadow economic secretary to the Treasury Pat McFadden said the "unseemly squabble" was "extraordinary".

"We've got a jobs crisis facing a number of energy intensive industries like steel, ceramics, paper-making and so on," he told Kay Burley.

"They're asking the government for help and instead of their concerns being addressed, what we've got is this unseemly squabble between the Treasury and the business department.
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Re: Energy companies collapse

So would everybody in the Treasury be aware of everything that went on there? Of course not. He didn't mention "talks" with the Treasury, but with "government colleagues".
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Old 11-10-2021, 12:28   #187
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So would everybody in the Treasury be aware of everything that went on there? Of course not. He didn't mention "talks" with the Treasury, but with "government colleagues".
So why did the treasury issue such a stinging rebuke to Kwarteng then?

Either Kwarteng is lying or the treasury is...

Take your pick and answers on a postcard please.
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Re: Energy companies collapse

During the Blitz we didn’t have this kind of pedantic analysis of politicians following their rounds on the Sunday morning television spots.
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Old 11-10-2021, 12:58   #189
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So why did the treasury issue such a stinging rebuke to Kwarteng then?

Either Kwarteng is lying or the treasury is...

Take your pick and answers on a postcard please.
They didn't, a "source" did.
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I'm speaking to government colleagues, particularly in the Treasury, to try and see a way through this."
"Government colleagues" would imply Ministers, who in turn would be talking within their departments, eg Treasury.
As I said, ONE PERSON cannot know everything that is going on.
Seems unlikely that the Treasury wouldn't be looking into potential options all by themselves, just in case they were asked.
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They didn't, a "source" did.
"Government colleagues" would imply Ministers, who in turn would be talking within their departments, eg Treasury.
As I said, ONE PERSON cannot know everything that is going on.
Seems unlikely that the Treasury wouldn't be looking into potential options all by themselves, just in case they were asked.
That source was representing the Treasury and would need to be reputable and sufficiently high up before Sam Coates reported it. Not just a random in the IT department.
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/sta...-politics-live

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During the Blitz we didn’t have this kind of pedantic analysis of politicians following their rounds on the Sunday morning television spots.

We were all too busy attending to our gardens which were converted to food production to bother watching Sunday morning telly.
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re the blitz comment Well social media did not exist and people were fed propaganda from the one source (yeah the BBC) so totally different
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Re: Energy companies collapse

There was also the Ministry of Information
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Re: Energy companies collapse

And all the newspapers & magazines
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ok so I got the one source wrong but it was still the one source hence why you cannot compare then and now on a forum of which also did not exist
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