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Old 14-06-2021, 14:40   #1351
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That contribution would have been cancelled out by no red tape and no customs on the payroll and we stood a chance of a better deal.

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Old 14-06-2021, 14:45   #1352
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Quite simply, they are the enemy and France is obviously and maliciously demonstrating that.
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Old 14-06-2021, 14:59   #1353
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On the subject of predictions, how's your one in the Covid thread going? The one where you 'expect Boris to open up as planned' ?
I'm hoping it will be better than the EU one which promised that we would all be pleasantly surprised. I guess you could argue it was 50% correct as we were surprised by it, but not pleasantly!
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Old 14-06-2021, 15:07   #1354
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Indeed - as jolly as a sandboy, as Rees-Mogg would say.
What's happened to him, he's gone very quiet, probably counting the cash he's made out of brexit betting against the pound, his chums have gone quiet to, you can't normally shut forage and francois up but their silence is deafening at the moment

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Search on here, I'm sure you'll find a few that wanted it.
Yeah he did say credible though
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Old 14-06-2021, 15:23   #1355
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What's happened to him, he's gone very quiet, probably counting the cash he's made out of brexit betting against the pound, his chums have gone quiet to, you can't normally shut forage and francois up but their silence is deafening at the moment



Yeah he did say credible though
Nigel Farage was a guest on GB news last night
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Nigel Farage was a guest on GB news last night
I like Farage, but putting him on is bad psychology by GB News.
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I like Farage, but putting him on is bad psychology by GB News.
i think he was talking about BLM ,i was a bit worse for beer so it's a bit fuzzy.
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Old 14-06-2021, 17:04   #1358
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Exodus of EU workers leaves UK construction industry facing shortages

Industry bodies warn projects are likely to slow this summer unless urgent steps are taken

An exodus of EU workers from the UK has left the British construction industry facing an acute shortage of labourers in some specialist trades and a looming crisis for the government’s “build back better” strategy.

Industry associations and construction companies said that unless urgent steps were taken, work on some projects might slow this summer.

The sector is already under pressure because of an ageing workforce, a shortage of key building materials such as timber and steel as well as Covid-19 restrictions, which require greater social distancing on sites.

The need to retrofit buildings to meet net zero emissions targets as well as big infrastructure projects such as the high-speed rail project HS2 are also increasing demand for workers. Since January 1, it has been harder for EU workers to enter the UK and the construction industry was one of the sectors most reliant on workers from the continent.
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Old 14-06-2021, 18:23   #1359
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No sympathy at all for the construction industry, screwed their own and now paying for it.

Don't ask for a link as a refusal often offends
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No sympathy at all for the construction industry, screwed their own and now paying for it.

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It's bs anyway, they hired the Polish because they were cheap, no other reason they're not better or harder workers they're just cheaper
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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Oh please. The French government in particular are refusing to allow reasonability in operating the NI protocol. Meanwhile our people in NI are suffering and a sectarian war may be in the offing. Boris did a wretched deal and he has to take his share of the blame.

As to your insults, the Telegraph does not lead me, it follows my views. I don't read MP's blogs. I am a free thinker who voted Leave and am disappointed with the politicians' delivery of that.

Finally, when I use the term "enemy" everyone knows what is meant. Not "enemy" as in the Germans/Japs during WWI; but rather adversary and nasty at that.
So as most of us thought, you're just exaggerating for dramatic effect.

There were plenty of us saying Borris and his ilk are all slimeballs so everyone who voted for them and now are unhappy with the bucket of shit they've left us with have nobody to blame but themselves.

All those quotes from the telegraph I must have missed where you say The Telegraph are quoting me as saying/thinking..., and I remember the times you used to appear to hang on every word your MP said but to be fair you do seem to have stopped that recently so maybe you've seen through him. If I was trying to insult you, I'd just insult you. You'll know when it happens because the swear filter will have a funny turn . And before you accuse me of being a lefty remained, just think at least one of those descriptions would be wrong .
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How would an extension have got us a worse deal than we have at the moment?
An extension would not have brought us any concessions from the EU. All it would have brought us would have been more grief and mischief making from remainers who wanted to overturn a democratic decision.

You know that, Andrew, so why ask the question?
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An extension would not have brought us any concessions from the EU. All it would have brought us would have been more grief and mischief making from remainers who wanted to overturn a democratic decision.

You know that, Andrew, so why ask the question?
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That contribution (we're still paying the EU, btw) would have been cancelled out by no red tape and no customs on the payroll and we stood a chance of a better deal. You could argue it was a chance of 1% or a chance of 100%.

By not giving ourselves the chance, we condemned ourselves to a 100% chance of a bad deal which just satisfied box-tickers and not business.
Slowly but surely, Seph is waking up to the limitations of the deal that he had previously been content with. You'll soon catch up and I'm sure you'll be on the same page as me if you keep an open mind.
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Slowly but surely, Seph is waking up to the limitations of the deal that he had previously been content with. You'll soon catch up and I'm sure you'll be on the same page as me if you keep an open mind.
Thing is, the NI Protocol is part of the Withdrawal Agreement which was not the full centre of focus on Christmas Eve last. And then, Boris promised NI that GB-NI trade would be completely open. The shit duly hit the fan when Boris realised he's signed a poor WA (I've no idea whether or not he was warned about the pitfalls).

I'm an honest fellow and cannot defend the shambles going on in front of me and the nastiness of the EU in not taking a more reasonable view over NI given the sectarian tensions now brewing.

Some Remainers here doggedly defend the EU on the basis that the letter of the Agreement must be obeyed because we signed up to it. Not a word about that awful Macron and his misbehaviour.
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Slowly but surely, Seph is waking up to the limitations of the deal that he had previously been content with. You'll soon catch up and I'm sure you'll be on the same page as me if you keep an open mind.
Purely out if interest, what are your current hopes Andrew?

Given what is done is done, it is extremely unlikely In the next decade, even the next 30 years that a decision on returning would even be entertained let alone ever happen.

Is it your hope that the U.K. fails? Because that won’t happen, at the worst case there may be the odd issue over the odd thing, but the U.K. will continue to be just fine some things may be better and some may be worse.

If you spend the next 30+ years hoping for the worst, that’ll be a very sad existence.
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