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View Poll Results: When you become eligible for the Covid Vaccine, would you take it?
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Old 04-08-2021, 17:00   #6841
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Yeah, we have lots of vaccines on order and it looks like us old codgers might be getting a Pfizer or Moderna jab if we had AZ in the past (linky)

That's going to limit doses for the kids by the look of it as they can't have the AZ jab
Dare I say if such an incoherent decision was made by regulators outside the umbrella of British Exceptionalism some on the forum would be crying foul.

If you are 16, a few months older than a 15 year old who can “safely” go into school and mix with hundreds of households in the same GCSE courses, maskless, without distancing, why would you bother?

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Re: Coronavirus

Another probable avoidable death

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-dies-of-covid

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A fit and healthy 42-year-old who loved climbing mountains and lifting weights has died of Covid after refusing to get the vaccine, leaving his twin sister and mother heartbroken and warning others not to think they are invulnerable to the dangers of the virus.
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“He thought if he contracted Covid-19 he would be OK. He thought he would have a mild illness. He didn’t want to put a vaccine on his body. His was pumped full of every drug in the hospital. They threw everything at him,” McCann said on Twitter.
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Re: Coronavirus

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"My 42yr old twin brother died in ITU of COVID-19 last week. John, from Southport on Merseyside, didn't want to have a jab she said as he thought he would only have a mild illness if he was to contract the virus.

"He died exactly 4 weeks after testing positive. He was the fittest, healthiest person I know. He was climbing Welsh mountains and wild camping 4 weeks before his death.

"The only pre-existing health condition he had was the belief in his own immortality.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...K3nY0tRHPIXNbM

I see that Ben has also given a link to this sad death. I make no apologies for duplicating the content of his post.

I know that some on here will say that it was his choice but the people left having to cope with his death are his family and his 19 year old daughter. For those who say "Like I say, heard it all before, don't care." then maybe you feel the same way as this guy. I just don't think he would agree with your sentiments if he had been able to see the consequences of his choices.
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Old 04-08-2021, 18:20   #6844
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Dare I say if such an incoherent decision was made by regulators outside the umbrella of British Exceptionalism some on the forum would be crying foul.

If you are 16, a few months older than a 15 year old who can “safely” go into school and mix with hundreds of households in the same GCSE courses, maskless, without distancing, why would you bother?
You wouldn’t
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As an aside, I went to the circus the other day, it was brilliant and at the begining the announcer stated that all guests should wear a mask throughout the performance. I saw about 7 people out of a crowd of approx 2,000.

No one cares anymore, well not in Halifax anyway.
How was the vaccine clinic doing?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58039581
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Old 04-08-2021, 22:01   #6846
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How was the vaccine clinic doing?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58039581
I did actually see 1 no. Person go in.

So a 0.05% uptake. Get n.
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Old 05-08-2021, 03:25   #6847
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I did actually see 1 no. Person go in.

So a 0.05% uptake. Get n.
I’m quite sure that’s not how they measure uptake. Unless you watched it the entire time plus did an extensive survey to find out how many there were actually eligible to be vaccinated there and then.

More good news for Old Boy as the City of London remains “fairly empty”, with offices falling in value. This personal responsibility stuff is fantastic.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...trictions-lift

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But can still infect those who have not been vaccinated, which is not something the covidfans/virus-supporters like to acknowledge...
No in fact VAXED can spread it more which they dont like admitting either......
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Dare I say if such an incoherent decision was made by regulators outside the umbrella of British Exceptionalism some on the forum would be crying foul.

If you are 16, a few months older than a 15 year old who can “safely” go into school and mix with hundreds of households in the same GCSE courses, maskless, without distancing, why would you bother?
My guess (and it is just a guess) is that things might be tweaked so years 11 (15-16) and 12 (16-17) will be vaccinated as a whole rather than doing things by age. It would make a hell of a lot more sense.

I have already been winding up my needle-phobic 15 year old that she is getting a vaccination for her birthday. She is not happy but my 13 year old is laughing like a drain!

(she knows that she should get the jab and her options are very limited in our house about vaccines with two scientist parents)
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My guess (and it is just a guess) is that things might be tweaked so years 11 (15-16) and 12 (16-17) will be vaccinated as a whole rather than doing things by age. It would make a hell of a lot more sense.

I have already been winding up my needle-phobic 15 year old that she is getting a vaccination for her birthday. She is not happy but my 13 year old is laughing like a drain!

(she knows that she should get the jab and her options are very limited in our house about vaccines with two scientist parents)
I suspect once adequate supplies of Pfizer are sourced to booster JCVI groups 1-9 and 12-15 year olds suddenly the advice will change. Entertainingly the current advice is for a single dose of Pfizer for 16 and 17 year olds - nothing about timing of (or even if there will be!) second doses. But it’s definitely definitely not a supply issue.
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No in fact VAXED can spread it more which they dont like admitting either......
Bullshoot - please cite scientific evidence.

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Bullshoot - please cite scientific evidence.

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Guess it's based on behaviour rather than virus science. Vax'd will maybe move around more, not wear masks as much, take more "risk". Also if Vax'd have less symptoms even when infected or symptoms are slower to onset then they could spread more.


All part of the fun of epidemiology. Just bubbling under the surface is a rise in deaths from possibly the biggest "killer" in history - malaria (https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4711). On an epidemiology course I attended years ago it was estimate that half of the people through history likely to have died from malaria. The numbers have decreased regularly for the past couple of decades but are rising again now - still it doesn't really impact us in the UK so why worry? </sarcasm>
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All part of the fun of epidemiology. Just bubbling under the surface is a rise in deaths from possibly the biggest "killer" in history - malaria (https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4711). On an epidemiology course I attended years ago it was estimate that half of the people through history likely to have died from malaria. The numbers have decreased regularly for the past couple of decades but are rising again now - still it doesn't really impact us in the UK so why worry? </sarcasm>
Good news is there are malaria vaccines on their way - and the Covid work has helped in part with that

https://www.newscientist.com/article...ive-ever-made/

https://news.sky.com/story/biontech-...ccine-12364977
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Good news is there are malaria vaccines on their way - and the Covid work has helped in part with that

https://www.newscientist.com/article...ive-ever-made/

https://news.sky.com/story/biontech-...ccine-12364977
Yes it is good news and wasn't there something about "vaccinating" the mozzie too that looked promising. Malaria is a parasite on the mozzie as part of it's cycle.
But if a vaccine is made, will it get to the people who need it? Poverty, politics, and so on all stand in the way.
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