Brexit

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

It's all true read this.

The Paris-based L’Institute de Eurovision Song - the pan-European body governing the continent’s pop output - warned leaving the EU could mean Great Britain’s glorious Eurovision history might come to an end. Britain’s Eurovision efforts have long been enjoyed across the continent and the nations has likewise enjoyed scrupulously fair adjudication at the hands of the Eurovision judges. Vaya Mentira, chief executive of LIES, said: “It has with a heavy heart that we have decided Britain should no longer compete in Eurovision.

Actually thats the sort of crap that could change the great unwashed vote. They care not or understand the Custom union, single market, but a camp phone in TV vote show we must have ! The Express want to be careful with their April fools...

[jfman]

Israel are in it haha. I thought the only rule was to be a PAL territory as opposed to NTSC.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by nomadking

So what is the point of Royal Assent being required, if not to block a backdoor overthrowing of a democratic vote?

I think it's there to stop any absurd or immoral laws being passed, the last safety valve in the procedure if you like.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Not quite. They aren’t symbolic; they’re very real. They are, however, only exercised on advice (the conferring of the Order of Merit is an extremely rare exception). The monarch avoids a constitutional crisis by respecting a convention, not by obeying a law.

The powers of the sovereign have effectively been brought under democratic control because they are exercised by, or on the advice of, an Executive which is drawn from, and answerable to, our elected Parliament.

However, it is a delicious irony that our last line of defence against tyranny is that there is no law any government can usurp to give itself absolute power, because power has never been stripped from the Crown.

So a Government couldn't pass a law that abolished elections and kept them in power indefinitely. I assume that Hitler did something along these lines??

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

It's all true read this.

The Paris-based L’Institute de Eurovision Song - the pan-European body governing the continent’s pop output - warned leaving the EU could mean Great Britain’s glorious Eurovision history might come to an end. Britain’s Eurovision efforts have long been enjoyed across the continent and the nations has likewise enjoyed scrupulously fair adjudication at the hands of the Eurovision judges. Vaya Mentira, chief executive of LIES, said: “It has with a heavy heart that we have decided Britain should no longer compete in Eurovision.

I like the fact they went the extra mile with Vaya Mentira, the Chief Executive of 'LIES' translates from Spanish as 'that is a lie'.

Nice work!

[denphone]

Chief whip attacks cabinet's post-election Brexit strategy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47768884

The government should have made clear after the 2017 election that it would "inevitably" have to accept a closer relationship with the EU after Brexit, the Conservative chief whip has said.

In a BBC documentary, Julian Smith - who manages party discipline - is also critical of the cabinet's behaviour.

In interviews for The Brexit Storm: Laura Kuenssberg's Inside Story, Mr Smith accused ministers of trying to undermine the prime minister.

He said he witnessed ministers "sitting around the cabinet table... trying to destabilise her [Mrs May]" and described their behaviour as the "worst example of ill-discipline in cabinet in British political history".

[Pierre]

A little montage for you, also puts and end to the argument that we weren’t told what would happen. Also shows just how much it is Labour that have done the biggest about turn on the issue.

https://www.facebook.com/49146379769...271698?sfns=mo

[jfman]

Popcorn time as Labour to whip for Common Market 2.0. SNP supporting as their preference is to remain, but want this kept on the table. Win or lose it’s still going to be carnage.

[denphone]

Both parties equally culpable for the chaos that has ensued with both split from top to bottom with a never ending civil war..

[jfman]

Originally Posted by denphone

Both parties equally culpable for the chaos that has ensued with both split from top to bottom with a never ending civil war..

In their defence the split in the parties reflects the split in the country.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

In their defence the split in the parties reflects the split in the country.

True but will we ever have a end to this chaos..

[jfman]

Originally Posted by denphone

True but will we ever have a end to this chaos..

Not until one side is let down badly, unfortunately!

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

Not until one side is let down badly, unfortunately!

The next general election when it happens is going to be very interesting as there will be quite a few prominent incumbents of their comfortable seats starting to have sleepless nights no doubt.

[jfman]

Depends when it is I suppose. If its 2022 a lot of the tension could have died down. Folk will move on to other issues that irritate them.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

Depends when it is I suppose. If its 2022 a lot of the tension could have died down. Folk will move on to other issues that irritate them.

And there are certainly a lot of other issues they are upset about.

[jfman]

Interestingly Farage has described all four options as remain. Not actually true - a second referendum could result in no deal.

Unless deep down he’s accepting the game is up and that, either through having to obey electoral laws or demographic change, people will vote remain. Interesting concession from a man who made so much profit from his biggest one.