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Old 21-11-2021, 13:16   #91
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Re: The Smart Meter Con

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I was at the Senior Management meetings where it was discussed (I was Head of Programmes for Billing Systems Remediation), so you can either believe someone who heard it repeated many times at many different meetings from the Npower Board directly, or not - your choice.

I have no skin in the game - I left after a year because it was such a fustercluck of a company, and am now retired.
Well what was the justification given, or was it just "Government says this"
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In what way can smart meters be a health risk, please?
They get you wound up and compel you to get on the internet and tell the world your work history
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Old 21-11-2021, 13:52   #93
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Well what was the justification given, or was it just "Government says this"
Government says this…

The company didn’t want to do it, as it cost a lot of time and resources, and the customers weren’t keen (lots, and I mean lots, of cancelled installs).
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Its amazing how easy it is to read your own meter, I do it every month
I do too,
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Government says this…

The company didn’t want to do it, as it cost a lot of time and resources, and the customers weren’t keen (lots, and I mean lots, of cancelled installs).
The Government that organisation that is really well known for telling the truth and being honest next you will be telling me the BBC is impartial hahaha
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Old 21-11-2021, 15:24   #96
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As far as I am concerned that is all spin trying to blag the public
I posted the requirements for all smart meters earlier in this thread.

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it must be possible to also separately derive maximum (average half-hour) kVA
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The whole point of smart meters is still being hidden from public view: the ability to change billing from kwh (losses made by power companies) to kva (losses paid for by consumers).
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I posted the requirements for all smart meters earlier in this thread.
yeah I agree with you on this
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Re: The Smart Meter Con

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The whole point of smart meters is still being hidden from public view: the ability to change billing from kwh (losses made by power companies) to kva (losses paid for by consumers).
The whole point? Does that include smart gas meters?
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Old 21-11-2021, 20:19   #99
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Re: The Smart Meter Con

Is there such a thing ? Cant say Ive ever heard them mentioned before.
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Old 21-11-2021, 20:22   #100
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yes

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/co...art-gas-meter/
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Is there such a thing ? Cant say Ive ever heard them mentioned before.
Didn't realise everybody didn't have them . Our smart gas and leccy meters were installed on the same day.

Neither of them has ever managed to get a network connection, mind.
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Neither of them has ever managed to get a network connection, mind.
Dual-band systems should sort that out.
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Didn't realise everybody didn't have them . Our smart gas and leccy meters were installed on the same day.

Neither of them has ever managed to get a network connection, mind.
Both mine were brand new this year and set to update or report daily. However weeks go by sometimes without connecting.
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Re: The Smart Meter Con

I was under the impression that the Gas meter talks to the electricity meter locally and the electricity meter has a 2,5G SIM with which it talks to the provider.
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Re: The Smart Meter Con

We have a 'smart' gas meter, no idea who it talks to (if anyone) or when.

The small box you plug in to tell you all the details of usage data etc has been at the back of a cupboard* for ages.






* or was thrown into the bin and is now in a recycling warehouse in Indonesia
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