UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

Originally Posted by Mr K

I'll try and explain slowly....

1. We have workers rights (protected by the EU).
   
2. Post Brexit we can change these laws, workers no longer have that protection.
   
3. Given the concerns from MPs prior to the election Bozza said he would continue with these protections, by adding them to UK law.
   
4. He's now going back on that, less than a week after the election.
   
5. He's a lying liar, which we all knew.

I’m struggling to see the problem here.

You appear to be hankering after the “protection” of a supra-national organisation that has the power to prevent a democratically elected government from pursuing policies the British electorate voted for.

This is one of the reasons many people voted to leave the EU. But even after having their arses handed to them last week, it seems many remainers still simply don’t get it.

Here’s the rub: from now on, if you want policies implemented in the UK, then you need to make and win a democratic case in the UK. You can no longer rely on the inertia of a pretend superstate, and the votes of foreign politicians, to do it for you.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Chris

I’m struggling to see the problem here.

You appear to be hankering after the “protection” of a supra-national organisation that has the power to prevent a democratically elected government from pursuing policies the British electorate voted for.

This is one of the reasons many people voted to leave the EU. But even after having their arses handed to them last week, it seems many remainers still simply don’t get it.

Here’s the rub: from now on, if you want policies implemented in the UK, then you need to make and win a democratic case in the UK. You can no longer rely on the inertia of a pretend superstate, and the votes of foreign politicians, to do it for you.

I'm hankering after a PM that doesn't lie and that keeps his pre-election promises. However seems I won't get that in this country !

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

I'm hankering after a PM that doesn't lie and that keeps his pre-election promises. However seems I won't get that in this country !

Fortunately we have an open door policy in this country,if your not happy you can leave.

Originally Posted by Mr K

I'm hankering after a PM that doesn't lie and that keeps his pre-election promises. However seems I won't get that in this country !

I’ll take that abrupt pivot as you not having any meaningful response to my point.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Chris

I’ll take that abrupt pivot as you not having any meaningful response to my point.

No the lie was the main point I was making in the first place. You're the one that's trying to change the subject !

How is your nice new SNP MP btw?

Originally Posted by Mr K

No the lie was the main point I was making in the first place. You're the one that's trying to change the subject !

How is your nice new SNP MP btw?

I think he’s the numpty who started wailing at Strasbourg, which is a bummer. But he’s SNP, and the majority of us have just learned to tune out their endless whining by now, so we’ll cope.

[Sephiroth]

The EU case against the UK for not appointing a Commissioner has gone quiet? Anyone heard anything? Google not much help.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Fortunately we have an open door policy in this country,if your not happy you can leave.

Surely Mr K's aim to find an MP who doesn't lie and keeps his pre-election promises can be found within the UK?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Surely Mr K's aim to find an MP who doesn't lie and keeps his pre-election promises can be found within the UK?

I wish him luck finding one

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Originally Posted by Chris

I think he’s the numpty who started wailing at Strasbourg, which is a bummer. But he’s SNP, and the majority of us have just learned to tune out their endless whining by now, so we’ll cope.

Just remind them that they aren't getting a referendum that should cheer you up

Originally Posted by papa smurf

I wish him luck finding one

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Just remind them that they aren't getting a referendum that should cheer you up

Perhaps they'll hold a non-binding referendum, and then say it's the will of the majority/democracy...

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Perhaps they'll hold a non-binding referendum, and then say it's the will of the majority/democracy...

Well that would certainly stir the pot.

[heero_yuy]

Quote from The Sun:

BORIS Johnson plans to give British judges the power to overturn EU court rulings in his landmark Brexit bill.

The PM has vowed to ensure Britain “take back control of our laws” with lower courts given the power to ditch European Courts of Justice rulings.
Mr Johnson’s move is set to divide the cabinet when MPs vote on the bill on Friday, The Times reported today.

And Boris' spokesperson confirmed the news earlier.

They said: "The bill will ensure that the Supreme Court is not the only institution able to consider the European Court of Justice rulings.

"This is an important change, which will ensure that we do not face a legal bottleneck and inadvertently stay bound by EU rulings for many years.
"We will take back control of our laws and disentangle ourselves from the EU's legal order, as was promised to the British people."

I've put the Times link in for those who subscribe.

Presumably this would also scupper moves in Brussels regarding the non-appointment of an EU comissioner for the UK.

Originally Posted by Hugh

Perhaps they'll hold a non-binding referendum, and then say it's the will of the majority/democracy...

I’d be quite happy for the SNP to do a Catalonia.

A referendum lacking legitimacy or legal authority is the easiest to fight - you just refuse to take part. Let it be seen for the farce that it is.

Then afterwards, while I don’t imagine the British legal system would go after SNP ministers for treason as the Spanish did in Catalonia, I do wonder whether there might be a case to answer regarding misuse of public funds.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

I've put the Times link in for those who subscribe.

Presumably this would also scupper moves in Brussels regarding the non-appointment of an EU comissioner for the UK.

I assume this for after the transition period as the CJEU is the ultimate arbiter of matters pertaining to EU law according to the Withdrawal Agreement. If that is the case, we won't be needing a Commissioner anyway

[heero_yuy]

Well this is in the WA so I assume it becomes active once given royal ascent.